Thread regarding Ford layoffs

@hs ???

@hh WHAT?!? That is the funniest coin-flip logic i’ve heard all week for freestyle abuse. “Half the time” is what sociopaths call odds. Sounds like you never had a reputation to protect from ANNOYING 30yr lie-lards like yourself that never stand in the blast radius of their own decisions, forcing everyone else in your chain to catch shrapnel-- what YOU call accountability. You can’t poke fun at anything deeper, because you don’t know anything deeper. So what do you do? You swing at the only thing you’ve mastered: 10K hours on powerpoint.

You're the apex predator of powerpoint, but also the apex prey to any org chart that isn’t labeled “retirement".

Also, the irony of mocking “psychological safety” while clearly being triggered enough to post a novella?

@hf Jesus, listen to yourself. You toss around ‘power dynamics’ and ‘psychological safety’ like some armchair therapist with a LinkedIn certification, when really you just sound like a whiny cubicle cop who’s pi---d the world doesn’t bubble-wrap your ego. Retaliation? Please. Half the time it’s called accountability, but I guess when you’ve never built or fixed a damn thing outside of PowerPoint, every raised eyebrow feels like a war crime. You don’t need a think-tank buzzword, you need a set of ba--s, or better yet, a new job. Stop dressing up your victim complex like it’s a case study. It’s a fu--ing office, not Fallujah.

@he 30 years here, and still zero reading comprehension on how power dynamics actually work. Psychological safety. Classic middle-manager brain-rot thinking that if he never felt personally unsafe, nobody else should either. The rest of us live in every day knowing one honest question to the wrong boss, especially one from your reporting line, can torpedo a review, a project, or a career. Just because you’ve never felt the retaliation doesn’t mean it’s imaginary; it means you’re the one swinging it.

@fs “Inspire yourself to safety? Are you serious? This isn’t a coal mine, it’s a corporate office in Dearborn. I’ve been here nearly 30 years, and the most dangerous part of the job is merging onto Southfield Freeway. There are cameras and security everywhere, nothing happens here. If you honestly think your cubicle is a war zone, you should be embarrassed for yourself. What a fu--ing joke.

@fs

Be ready to leave at any moment. Taking steps to prepare for that just simply gives you confidence to not worry about these id--ts flaking out on you. Tell them everything they need to hear while you still need them. Just make sure you're planning your exit while you do it. Can't or wont do that? No one can help you i guess you are stuck.

I do love KG - the guy is a visionary. Calm, collected, thoughtful, the guy should be the next CEO. KG all the way!

KG's fireside chat inspired me to focus on my family and hobbies since my employer actively disdains that it has to employ people to do things.

Red Forman from the '70s show. I credit a lot of my major feats to his specific style of leadership.

Reason prevails!

@fs just be quiet then! Stop acting like a whippersnapper looking for attention. I suggest any HR to dismiss and call everything you say a falsehood. It's not professional.

@fr "Inspire yourself to stiff arm the Fk out of them when they try to overload you."

How can I do that when they inspire me with the power imbalance and seniority? I can't report one of their own. If I hold boundaries, it gets worse..

I need to inspire myself to safety

@ff

You are right. Clock in, clock out - but you have to side with them on one issue: Don't give them any more then that. Sure...you want inspiration, read a kids book, watch a youtube video of your favorite person. Don't buy the trash of being a %100 per-center either because once you give that, any let up is considered a slack. But for the love of God don't expect the people that run Ford or any other corporate environment to inspire you. Inspire yourself to stiff arm the Fk out of them when they try to overload you.

@fg I believe these sourdoughs call it overexcitabilities now a days! WTF is that? Just making sh-t up. This emotional wokeness MUST STOP

@c2 For me, the clear choice is @ej+1k365zp2r

Picture your kid thumbing the phone at 2 a.m. and landing on a grown man whose entire pep talk is “pound sand and chase fairy dust". Minds of tomorrow aren't ready. They need to be built Ford tough.

@ff Karen type I’m sure, not welcome on my team either, grow up!

You want “inspiration”? I’ve got it on VHS: The 1986 plant safety video. Watch that and try not spill your soy latte on OSHA regulations.

Cry to mama if the fluorescent lights hurt your sensibilities or someone took your stapler. This is a place for realness. Not optimists or pessimists. Realists.

@fd Yup, they seem to think there is supposed to be a learning experience here. Some place to grow. This is why we should only hire grown ups. These snowflakes think they're in lalaland with Elmo. Nobody owes you anything here. Sad about your work? Go cry with your family. This is a job. You don't get paid for being sensitive. You get paid for your compliance to the your job duties.

Inspiration? Ted talk. I would never have OP on my team. Sounds like they're too difficult to deal with. Would probably complain about fair treatment or other social justice warrior issues and attempt to rally a cause or something. You don't get paid to complain.

You think the company’s running a Montessori playhouse for you to “discover yourself”? Wrong. Clock in, do the task, clock out.

@ej I agree, don’t look to your job for satisfaction, get that at home with your family.

@ej You seem like a 'realist'. You are the perfect candidate for our new role where you will make all your beliefs "self-fulfilling". You are a 'genius'.

PC (ADAS Manager) comes to mind. He's not Superman, but he stands for principles and engineering rigor in a tough environment like OP describes. So yes, good leaders do exist, but fair point that they are scarce, and take on substantial personal stress to stand up for their values.

@ej Sounds to me like you're not inspired by anyone working here. What does pound sand mean? Is that part of your job? It's not my domain, sorry.

@OP

You want inspiration? Go watch a f$%ing Disney movie or something..wtf. This is a job and you seem confused. Do you work for id--ts? Most likely. Should you expect to then be inspired? No. Go chase rainbows and fairy dust and pound sand while your at it. Grow up.

@e5 in general. Anytime I’ve had inspiration was from seeing a good sports match, generally people speaking warrants a “that’s nice” or indifferent feeling. I’ve been motivated by fear or punishment to perform growing up, but that’s not really inspiration. Speeches make me feel neutral… people doing around me or seeing something interesting is about the closest I get to inspiration.

Maybe I’m autistic or something… I don’t think I’ve ever gotten inspired by hearing others talk throughout my life.

I bought me some bunny-slippers for my wife after I saw our fashion model touting them.

Told her our executive wears them.

After a few months she fond out the details...

Chat, please?

For me it was Charles Munger — not the title, not the wealth, just the way one line from him could settle in your chest and shift how you see the world. That kind of truth makes you lean in, makes you grateful someone like that existed at all.

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Imagine your kid on the couch, thumb-scrolling at 2 a.m., not because you nagged them to “read a book” but because one name just lights a spark. What name would your kid punch into Google on their own and get inspired reading about, no parent push, just because something about that person’s story clicks? Anyone walking the halls right now whose gut-level authenticity would hold up as proof that “earned, not anointed” still exists?

Who, when stripped of every press badge, still sparks the same ‘not afraid’ pulse that Eminem threw on 8 Mile? Someone so clearly built by hand that the second they open their mouth you quit breathing (RIP), even if you don’t like them, so you don’t miss what they have to say.

Name the person whose presence turns rumor mills into confession booths for petty grievances that have nothing to do with them. Who triggers the automatic “nah, must be fake” chorus because nobody wants the receipt. Is there anyone that serves the daily reminder that callouses outrank credentials.

@as

If you were building a leader our community needs, what three traits sit at the top of your list: candor, grit, technical depth, something else?

Pretend the individual is fresh off printer and without any of the disillusion yet. What is the single daily reality you’d shield them from so they don’t turn into another traumatized gray ghost.

Most of the senior faces look like placeholders to you, so paint the opposite: someone you’d hand the torch to without rolling your eyes.

Let's say a leader many years younger, is the reaction “finally, new blood, let’s see what they’ve got” or “how do we mute them until they sound 45 and jaded”?

What would it take for you to treat that person as a peer from day one?

What single thing tips you over the edge and makes you decide they should get treated like an equal on all counts instead of an intern?

Dirt-under-the-fingernails problem solver (has fixed or built something before it hit a slide deck they asked to pitch) or picture perfect academic we-pon? Earned stripes on merit and stubborn brainpower (no family map) or an MBA coat shaped by systems their family helped design?

@am You can read?

@OP

I have been here for multiple years; there is not one person I have respected professionally. If someone has been working here for more than 5 years, you know they are pretty inept in their career and this was the best they were able to do .

In general the pool is very mediocre to average at best. No one is excited or passionate about what they do. If they did they would not work here.

I took this job out of desperation and to be honest it has been the biggest set back for me professionally; I am counting down the days until I leave.

The longer you stay here, the more your brain rots and the worse your resume gets. I am extremely worried about the amount of bs'ing ill have to do at the next company interview because of the lack of good work there is here.

@OP.

I'd buy a coffee for them to stop talking.

Yes, I still quote them years later, as an example of stupidity.

They are below average, with the wrong credentials, but I concede they are smarter than the !diots that hire them.

Extend the conversation? I would avoid it in the first place.

Scale - 1.

Their eyes avoid looking straight at people, so you know they are lying.

Their talk about future is laughable, since the company will have no future thanks to them.

I'd avoid 1on1, since I'd be so tempted to tell them they s!ck big time, but I don't want to lose my job.

What playbook? They are just making all up as they walk by.

The only self help book needed is for the workers, due to their tactics.

They lie everyday, and they even s!ck at it. I cannot trust anything they say, since I don't trust them.

I have better things to do on Saturdays... actually, at anytime. Even taking a dump is more interesting that watching them.

No, I don't trust at all these guys.

Stripped of the podium, you'd have to search for them in the trash can, so 1.

Nope, I feel poorer because the more time I spend here, my resume gets worse. Salary wise I am happy. Life-work balance is fine. I just worried how long before it is over, and how my resume/skills are going to fare in the real world again.

I would get certain members of senior leadership a cup of coffee just to understand why some of the company decisions lack common sense…

@OP who is going to read this drivel?

No. I feel anger and disgust. Same feeling as when I watch network news or listen to 99 percent of politicians.

Ford doesn’t lead anything. They chase trends and swap out jargon handbooks every 3 or so years.

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@OP they inspire me to apply for 100 new jobs every week

Just middle managers choosing pageantry over integrity, and bureaucracy doing its tedious worst. Anyone different gets crushed for brand symmetry, we rarely see them lead the race. Never outshine.

The whole damn thing runs on layers of digital Vas---ne.

Find anyone authentic rising through merit, swap them out for a bobble-head from the approved bloodline, then photoshop the headlines until the memory of any original spark is gone. They do it in racing, business, tech etc. He-l, even in who you’re told to “respect". So no—none of these people make me lean in for another five minutes.

It’s Pro Wrestling with Dallara chassis and LinkedIn reactions.