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AI Layoffs

You will lose your job to AI but not in the way you think. Spending on AI infrastructure exceeds the revenue of most organizations. The AI models they are using to replace humans with are called "loss leaders"

Nvidia GPUs are not cheap.
Amazon AWS is not cheap
Building new Datacenters while deporting construction workers is not cheap
powering and cooling the racks of AI compute is not cheap

if you are paying $20 a month for an AI LLM and the AI provider is spending $200 a month in your share of compute, power and overhead then when the music stops they will simply cut you off. That's how it has always worked.

The models are collapsing. GPT5 is an incremental improvement in some areas but a disaster in others. Coding models are hurting the brains of formerly great software engineers (they readily admit it but can't stop using AI in fear of falling behind). The codebase is not sustainable

Microsoft just did a full AI training takeover of GitHub
Doctors are losing the ability to detect cancer because of AI
Students are losing the ability to read, write, think, grow and learn because of AI
Super users are forcing LLM subscription prices up.
Bespoke projects that rely on a set price are blowing up.

you drop 3 thoughts into an LLM to write a 3 page email that your boss summarizes into 3 bullet points with an LLM and responds then you create a PowerPoint with the response using an LLM which your team summarizes with an LLM. Your "vibe coder" who replaced 10 real developers uses a chatbot to update the source code. Each step along the way is filled with errors & hallucinations which are used by corporate to "train" your internal AI system. Now extrapolate this to thousands of organizations and millions of people...

you will lose your job not because AI is so good bur because it will collapse in on itself and bring the economy down with it.

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And also, the sky is falling

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Post ID: @kp+1k2vxs43h

@er Wagger has been unemployed for quite some time now

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Post ID: @fy+1k2vxs43h

@OP best post i've seen in awhile.
the AI hype bubble is starting to burst and when it does will be huge

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Post ID: @f2+1k2vxs43h

Remember with AI, it is a race to the bottom.

AI has extremely high fixed costs. a frontier model costs hundreds of millions to create.
Compute (Nvidia GPUs), cooling, engineers

Inference is also very expensive
The bigger the model, the larger the dataset and GPU density.

Data is an asset and the traditional network effects of more users leading to better quality data (think Facebook and Gmail) is falling on it's face.
the data quality is becoming worse and worse each iteration.
GPT-5 is a garbage disposal

What this means for you, dear reader, is that you are the product.

Advertising on steroids: nudge user beliefs to align with undisclosed paid propaganda or products.

Knowledge distortion for profit or politics. "pay-to-play" for the truth

There is now an incentive to addict you and encourage overuse to encourage longer engagement, emotional dependence and data scraping.

Dark Patterns are emerging that makes the free tier increasingly worse to force you into paid tier

Knowledge manipulation is already evident. Sam is portayed as a savior by the openAI models. the "I' in ChatGPT pretends to be a sentient human. subtle propaganda influences users opinions, beliefs and values.

Surveillance State AI providers are already running the show. Who was JD the VP's financial benefactor?
What surveillance company did he create? (hint: named after the LOTR "all seeing eyes" )

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Post ID: @bg+1k2vxs43h

In Cisco, does AI = All Indians? Is that how we will lose our jobs?

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Post ID: @bf+1k2vxs43h

"Synthetic Data" is an id--tic term. It is either data (a real bit of information) or it is synthetic (a fake bit of information)

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Post ID: @bd+1k2vxs43h

@OP - we're witnessing the emergence of what might be called the AI Ouroboros Economy – a system that consumes itself in an endless cycle of artificial input and output.
The Economics of Artificial Scarcity

The financial mathematics described – paying $20 while consuming $200 in resources – mirrors historical patterns in tech platform economics, but with a crucial difference. Unlike previous loss-leader strategies (Amazon's early retail losses, Uber's driver subsidies), AI infrastructure costs don't decrease with scale in the traditional sense. Each interaction requires substantial compute, and unlike physical goods or ride-sharing where marginal costs approach zero, AI inference costs remain stubbornly high.

This creates what economists call a negative network effect paradox: more users don't necessarily make the service cheaper to provide per user, they just make the losses larger. The venture capital funding that currently subsidizes these losses isn't infinite, and unlike previous tech bubbles, there's no clear path to profitability through advertising or transaction fees.
The Training Data Pollution Crisis

Perhaps more concerning is the emergence of synthetic data contamination in training pipelines. As AI-generated content floods the internet – from code repositories to academic papers to news articles – future AI models will increasingly train on the outputs of previous AI models. This creates a form of digital inbreeding that degrades model quality over time.
Research from Stanford and other institutions has shown that models trained on synthetic data experience "model collapse," where the diversity and quality of outputs progressively diminish. This isn't a theoretical future problem – it's happening now. GPT-4's training data likely already contains significant amounts of GPT-3 generated content.
The Skill Atrophy Cascade

The cognitive outsourcing described – doctors losing diagnostic abilities, engineers losing coding intuition, students losing writing skills – represents a broader phenomenon: distributed cognitive collapse. Unlike tools that augment human capability (calculators didn't make mathematicians worse at math), current AI implementations often replace rather than enhance human reasoning processes.
This creates institutional vulnerabilities. When AI systems fail or become unavailable, organizations discover their human expertise has atrophied. The "use it or lose it" principle applies to cognitive skills, and entire industries are essentially putting their intellectual capital into suspended animation.
Historical Parallels and Divergences

The closest historical parallel might be the Dutch Tulip Mania of the 1630s, but with a technological twist. Like tulip speculation, AI investment is driven by fear of missing out and promises of future value that may never materialize. However, unlike tulips, AI systems create systemic dependencies that make retreat difficult once adoption reaches critical mass.
A more apt comparison might be the Irish Potato Famine – over-dependence on a single, seemingly reliable resource that suddenly fails. Organizations building their entire operational capacity around AI tools are creating similar monoculture vulnerabilities.
The Feedback Loop Acceleration

The scenario of LLM-generated emails being summarized by LLMs, then turned into presentations by LLMs, reveals something more insidious than inefficiency: semantic entropy. Each AI transformation introduces small errors, biases, and hallucinations. When these outputs become inputs for subsequent AI operations, errors compound exponentially.
This isn't just happening in individual workflows – it's happening across entire information ecosystems. News articles written by AI, summarized by AI, and commented on by AI-generated social media accounts create information loops divorced from reality. The "telephone game" effect, but played by machines at internet scale.
The Coming Correction

The economic correction, when it comes, will likely follow a predictable pattern: sudden funding contractions will force AI providers to dramatically raise prices or reduce service quality. Organizations that have eliminated human expertise will find themselves unable to function effectively without AI tools they can no longer afford.

Unlike previous tech bubbles where failed companies simply disappeared, the AI collapse will leave behind capability gaps that can't be quickly filled. You can't instantly re-hire experienced doctors, engineers, or teachers to replace skills that took decades to develop and were abandoned in favor of AI shortcuts.
The Path Forward

The solution isn't to abandon AI entirely, but to approach it with what might be called technological humility. AI should augment rather than replace human expertise. Organizations need to maintain human capabilities even while leveraging AI tools. This means:

  • Maintaining human oversight in critical decision-making processes
  • Preserving institutional knowledge rather than outsourcing it entirely
  • Using AI as a tool for enhancement rather than replacement
  • Building redundancy rather than complete AI dependence

The companies and individuals who survive the coming AI correction will be those who learned to dance with artificial intelligence rather than being consumed by it. The question isn't whether you'll lose your job to AI – it's whether you'll be prepared for what comes after the music stops.

A bit of advice to those coming out of college today, avoid the large companies who have leaders like those found in Cisco. Find a small company with a vision and grab onto it and survive what comes next

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Post ID: @am+1k2vxs43h

humans are notoriously terrible at predicting the future, but yet continue in our arrogance to do so.

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