I have zero issues with being laid off. Cisco has changed so much in culture and everything else that plenty of people would be grateful for a chance to leave while being paid to do it. Gone are the days when everybody wanted to work here and dreaded the (then) very rare cuts.
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@bc I’m in the same boat, given the extremely tough job market right now, another role will be hard to come by. These days your resume rarely reaches a human, because the rejections are nearly immediate. Al infused ATS. LinkedIn shows 100s of applicants applied for a very average role at an average company.
Given that social security will only pay 80% of what’s due to you (if that), retirement isn’t exactly a walk in the park either.
No, you're not going to retire. If you were going to, you would have done it already. But you love misery, so you'll stay...and one day you might realize the misery has been you all along, and it's inescapable. Stop blaming others for your problems. You should spend time in front of a mirror.
@ca I’ll be right behind you in the next 12 months if I last that long :)
Bring it on?
Oh, it's already been broughten!
I've reached the stage where I can no longer put up with the drama any longer whilst waiting for a LR. I'm going to retire early and enjoy my life minus all the Cisco BS and drama, LR or not. I can't take this sh-t for another year.
You are a loooserrr!
@bf you'll note that there were two options, either "severance" or "having the next job ready"
i'm fully supportive of lining up your next role and then leaving without notice because that means you have zero unpaid months
i'm fully supportive of waiting for severance, it might only be two months, but by that time that runs out you will hopefully have that next role
but the job market seems kind of rough right now, so just sending an email and walking straight out into zero income seems like a really d-mb move to me
because just up and quitting without a severance package
why do people here think Cisco will offer meaningful severance or ER?
are people willing to be tormented for two months salary? ge-z I'll just Venmo you the money to get you to shutup
Been there; done that (LR'd). You might think it is a great idea, but getting forced out can be one of the most stressful life events. Especially if raising a family. If you are late in career (near retirement), a LR can be a blessing, if you are completely set up financially. If you are you are planning on getting another "like" paying job, and thinking it will be similar effort to skating at Cisco; also guess again. I had to get a job for a few years after my LR, and did get a great job with great pay; but it was also much more time, travel, and work effort. I worked twice as hard at the next job as I did at Cisco.
Unless you walk on water and have current in-demand skills (heck, with the AI takeover, I do not even know what skills are in demand); the job hiring process is a train wreck now.
Good luck. Times are tough in the job market. Recommend staying and saving, and making the best out of what reality is. Bleak times; everything expensive, no job security, plus the rises of the AI machine job buzzword takeover, is making planning anything for the next few years a royal pain. Maybe this is the new normal.
"So why don't you do it?"
because just up and quitting without a severance package and with no locked-in new role to start imminently seems like a stupid idea right now? yes, working at cisco can be stressful but i'm sure straight-up unemployment is no walk in the park either
I don't understand posts like these.
If you feel so cavalier about no longer working at Cisco, all you have to do is send your manager an email saying "I don't work here anymore, go deal with HR and have them email me any separation info at my personal email address".
That's it. You do not need to give two weeks notice. You don't even have to give two hours notice. You can just walk.
So why don't you do it?
No, op is absolutely wrong, Cisco has nothing changed in the past 25 years, it is constantly run annual layoff, and now even microsoft, meta , Google, all these trillion companies with hundreds billions annual revenue, also run layoff frequently, just Microsoft has let 15000 employee go from beginning of this year. So frequently layoff is absolute the normal culture of the entire tech industry.
I hope you get the ax.
It's the sad reality many of us feel - uncertainty and unsettled - all whilst our stocks go up and we are asked to do training upon training upon training and perhaps used as leverage on who to cut vs. who not to cut.