Thread regarding IBM layoffs

How much of a sc*mbag does someone have to be that they need to cut more people so they get 1 dollar more in their perk package ?

Alvind and Krabanahgh are puppets for Wall St

@my You can only shrink so much. Automation will cut out large numbers of unnecessary people in the low cost countries. As more people get dumped with no new employment prospects, expect economic and political instability to rock many economies.

It is a zero sum game....innovation can only do so much.

The outsourcing of first world repetitive jobs to low cost “commodity” labor destinations was nothing more then a cost savings exercise for the CFO. For every dollar outsourced, 60-65 cents dropped to the bottom line. NOW the “commodity” labor destinations are going to experience the exact same treatment. Again the automation of repetitive tasks via AI is nothing more than a cost savings exercise for the CFO. The economics are almost exactly the same. For every dollar automated, 60-65 cents drops to the bottom line. The net of this is outsourced jobs will remain where they are at with a much smaller human crew. India and other commodity labor destinations are about to shrink by 2/3’s if they don’t add any value outside of cheap repetitive labor. This does not mean that innovative AI developers will not be employed or valued, BUT it does mean that very few innovative AI developers can easily replace 100’s of non-skilled employees with the push of a button. The net of the story is become innovative or automation will replace you.

@bc

100% agree. You know what else IMHO? Companies that outsourced like crazy will have the COST of undoing it all. Everything they think they saved (as a short-term 'strategy') will go out the window, and door goes the ones that did it.

It's coming, if I'm wrong, and doesn't start happening within the next 6+months, correct me!!

1/2 - 2/3 of all the repeatable tasks will be automated over the next 24 months. Much like the old phone operators being replaced via automated switches. No one wants to say it out loud, but commodity labor for repeatable tasks is fading away quite rapidly, and the countries that were the beneficiaries during the outsourcing rage, will be the countries most impacted via automation. It’s going to happen fast, and it’s going to be across all industries.

@a8, @am, @an

You get what you pay for.

Alvind and Krapanaugh want to pay peanuts, so they hire monkeys. There should be NO surprises when there is ZERO quality code produced and very few will take the time to resolve problems that come up. Fixing a problem takes knowledge and understanding. Maybe these incompetent coders and lousy developers are one of the reasons AI was invented. AI should replace them mercilessly, not the other way around.

@av

...and if things do not work, those Indian call center jackasses keep going over and over and over the same effing script in the hope that it will fix things by magic. Of course, it doesn't and you hang up on them in sheer exasperation and utter frustration.

But they never get it right. At all. Zero quality despite all the classes they take.

It reminds me that you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.

@am

Also, the way I see it and from direct experience: all they can offer is entry-level, low cost (and the fact that they are way too many people).

@a8

Agree and I know first hand. Poor quality and you need to repeat and repeat things, because they never understand the first, second or third time.

Also:

‘He is completely upset’: Why Trump scrapped an India trade deal: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/08/trump-india-trade-deal-00499251

Do you think he will put pressure on India to also include outsourcing? Wouldn't it be nice? He can correct two issues at once (Silicon Valley and India taking from us, but unwilling to give back).

Anyone who's worked with Indian devs and also used AI coding assistants knows that the "fresh out of the 2 week bootcamp in Pune" devs are the first that will be eliminated by AI.