Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Officially going out of business

Intel will not meet the 75k HC total by end of July additional layoff needed and the path to going out of business sealed.

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@em true Blue badge here

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Post ID: @xw+1jzb991zd

@OP Did you call the police regarding your car and the threat of the car with bullet holes parked next to your car? This story is hard to believe.

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Post ID: @v3+1jzb991zd

I use to work at the Hillsborough site in Oregon, and every stated problem with Intel' s
process is true it's failing with extremely bad management, and there are gangs from Caribbean and Africa, and people with criminal records working in every phase of operation, they are stealing chips, by saying the chips did not past testing process, they thought I was undercover, because I questioned the testing process and asked why are so many chips failing, they vandalized my car, and parked a car with bullet holes in the doors, next to my car.

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Post ID: @v0+1jzb991zd

If they want to survive they have to adapt, something they’ve been very incapable of doing the last decade.

They rely on vendors, who they treat like cr-p, to keep the fab operational because they’ve had a massive skill drain. They have hired too many PhDs to do work that you don’t need even an undergraduate degree to do. Rather than build talent they stifle it.

So many people leave Intel within a few years because they never get to progress their skill. Those who remain are complacent box checkers and pencil whippers. Which no one else will ever want to hire for what should be the equivalent position or next step up in expertise.

Many of those remaining or cheap hires are entirely unable to be trusted with a production or Research tool without breaking it and don’t listen to vendors on what not to do.

There’s a massive toxic environment and no consult on an experiment or change first. Big egos propagate the fab and there’s no proper feedback loop to help improve the skill issues or remove toxic engineers from an environment which only survives with collaboration.

Much of Intel red tape prevents vendors from being able to actively help pilot changes in a quick enough format to stay competitive in manufacturing.

In some areas we dubbed it the “Green Hunt”, essentially chasing out vendors and blaming them for everything going wrong in an effort to cover one’s own a-s and not look bad, even if the effort was to help avoid problems before they became problems. Once they became a problem then vendors were blamed. Even on state of the art equipment we the experts were brought in to manage because they were our tools. How does one expect a PhD fresh out of college to manage multiple tools with no experience and understanding of its operation, while refusing to train up enough to be trusted with the tool enough to not break it and cost millions a year? The upstream and downstream impacts are MASSIVE, it ends up costing Intel dozens of millions year after year. This creates an inflexible environment of stagnation, which furthers their issues.

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Post ID: @ge+1jzb991zd

Nokia has laid off thousands of people throughout the years (since it can be proven by the empty building that have been sold recently) but never on the WARN notice. Question: Is it less likely for a company to get h1b application approval if they are on the WARN notice list?
Answer:
Employer-Specific:
H-1B approvals are employer-specific. If a company is experiencing significant layoffs (like those that trigger a WARN notice), it may raise concerns about its financial stability and ability to employ H-1B workers long-term.
Increased Scrutiny:
USCIS may scrutinize H-1B petitions from companies that have issued WARN notices more closely, potentially leading to requests for additional documentation or even denials.
Financial Viability:
USCIS may question whether the company can afford to pay the prevailing wage and meet other obligations to H-1B workers if they are experiencing financial difficulties.

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Post ID: @fx+1jzb991zd

@fk Bro, you have no room to talk about “pathetic”. You regularly hang out on a board dedicated to a company that you’ve given the wholly unclever name “ShitTel” and tried to push it for a while now. Maybe you should get a real job.

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Post ID: @fm+1jzb991zd

Hope my prayers get answered. ShitTel deserves to file for bankruptcy!! What a pathetic mess!!

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Post ID: @fk+1jzb991zd

Not true fren intel 88% cpu matket..@em

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Post ID: @fa+1jzb991zd

I don't believe OP ever worked at Intel.

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Post ID: @ez+1jzb991zd

@e3 Intel has treated their customers, partners, and supplies like sh!t for years. Focusing on customers now is just too little too late. If people need x86 they can go to AMD and pay less for an arguably better product. If you don't believe this just go look at the market share data. Intel has gone from near monopoly status to nearly equal with AMD. AMD will hold a greater share of the x86 market within a few quarters.

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Post ID: @em+1jzb991zd

@a8 which is why they have been leaning heavily into customer centric values. If we can’t be the best performance wise we can lean into other things that also bring value.

If you actually work here you will know about the “Customer First” value. It’s literally the very first value listed on the recognition tool.

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Post ID: @e3+1jzb991zd

Intel will have no choice but to transfer employees to different companies like Capgemini to continue their current projects to deliver to customers and when that project finishes, Capgemini can outsource you to a different customer project. (Capgemini is an example, but there are many other companies out there that do this type of out sourcing your talent type of business).

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Post ID: @dp+1jzb991zd

I work on 14A and I can tell you we’re cooked. It’s mainly because same id--ts who cooked 1274 were moved to 1280. What good are you expecting from such losers? Everyone from GLs to program managers is so risk averse in 1280 that they’re immune to growth mindset. Without out of box thinking and willingness to take aggressive risks, we have no chance of winning in the age of AI

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Post ID: @bw+1jzb991zd

With 18A failing and 14A is in distant future of at least 5 years away, Intel is closer to going out of business.

Layoffs is sustaining, not saving.

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Post ID: @br+1jzb991zd

China won. Deal with it.

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Post ID: @b9+1jzb991zd

But they have twice the revenue of AMD.

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Post ID: @b7+1jzb991zd

why it should be 75k by end of July?

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Post ID: @b5+1jzb991zd

Ma sapete che cosa Flo disse?

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Post ID: @b2+1jzb991zd

Look at it from this angle. Next year, Intel will roll out stacked-layer Xeon CPUs—CWF and DMR in an effort to flood the Xeon market and gain back market-share. While performance might still lag behind AMD’s lineup on TSMC’s 2nm, Intel will likely lean on pricing and broader SKU options to stay in the game.

On the client front, PTL (early year) and NVL (fall) will serve OEM partners. This segment usually brings meaningful volume upside.

There are also several committed IFS products.

These alone could drive Intel’s fabs toward full utilizatio especially with GNR and EMR still contributing decent vol. That may be why Zinser recently noted that 18A doesn’t need many externals to break even.

And just like that, Y26 end and rolls into Y27 with 14A entering risk-prod. The real concern is post-2027–2028 if Intel lags on 14A HVM, TSMC will likely be advancing to 1.2, triggering yet another round of catch-up.

If so, another wave of layoffs wouldn’t be surprising and expects supporting getting leaner or outsource.

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Post ID: @ae+1jzb991zd

Intel has stiff competition in all of its remaining markets. The X86 monopoly and associated behavior of telling the customers take it or leave it and when it will be available without a threat from AMD is over. Their future looks bleak given NVIDIA and AMD now have tents in their backyard. This is sad as they will not exist in 2 years.

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Post ID: @a8+1jzb991zd

Huh?

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