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RA challenge based on unfair criteria

Has any employee from IBM challenged an RA (non performance based) and got it reversed based on unfair criteria being used to put people on RA . Can manager get an exception based on business need to reverse RA in such a case . what does it take for the upline to support this exception ?

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Post ID: @OP+1jz1xfgbv

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Thanks for the responses. yes want to take the severance and get out too (especially since i had good performance reviews) but have family and bills to pay , seems like getting a job is taking forever in this market even with reduced compensation based on the number of people applying versus no of positions open combined with delayed and slow hiring decisions

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Post ID: @18d+1jz1xfgbv

I’m puzzled why IBM hangs on to people who relocate from outside the US, long after those people are needed. Bringing people from less expensive markets like the UK, to the US, paying them a US salary, and then letting them hang around forever. And I’m not talking about unique skills here, I’m talking about marketing.

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Post ID: @w2+1jz1xfgbv

Why would you even want to do this? Get the fu-k out of that shithole. Thank you.

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Post ID: @qt+1jz1xfgbv

Yes, but the win was short lived.
Once you are marked, it’s only time.

So yeah go ahead and challenge it and give yourself a few months at most.

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Post ID: @qr+1jz1xfgbv

I'm challenging my PIP via grievance processes. Reading between the lines IBMs goal is to keep this as a HR process and not let it escalate to legal fallout. The outcome has been predetermined of course and the PIP its self is not developmental of course.

Again if you read between the lines, you're in 'the system' and as long as you're in the system you can't beat it.

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Post ID: @hg+1jz1xfgbv

Getting off RA list means your VP has to put someone else on the list in your place. Unlikely.

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Post ID: @hc+1jz1xfgbv

In my 20 years at IBM, I have only seen once that someone is being taken off from the RA list. He was a friend of a VP. But then he got laid off again in a year.

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Post ID: @gv+1jz1xfgbv

An RA is the end of a process and not the start of a new process. By the time you are informed of an RA, all business needs and other exception cases by a FLM/SLM have long since been exhausted. The higher up the upline is, the more indifferent to you he or she is.

A lot of behind the scenes activity has already taken place and the result is final.

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