Thread regarding Ford layoffs

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Ford needs to eliminate those who don't follow the company policy. Out the door you go.

@bm Model e is going to take a lot more than 5 years to be profitable. All of our competitors are cutting back on EV spending. We don't have anything special that they don't.

Where does management expect us to collaborate if managers book conference rooms at RTC all day for their “personal offices”?

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California is the high tech capital of the world, that is why DF resides there. His organization is the lead for the tech transformation of the mobility lineup and the entire company. It's called Ford+ Transformation. If you worked at Ford, you would know this.

Model e and the supporting digital/software/design organizations are key and within the next 5 years you will see the growth and profitability.

Where does Doug Field currently work from?

If you didn't see this coming, you don't wotk at Ford. I don't know about anywhere else, but at the benchmarking center you get to sit in a filthy old chair in an old, dirty cubicle, often shared with someone else, while you still primarily attend teams meetings, where you talk over everyone else in the office as you strain to hear everyone else on the call. Thank God TVM is the answer to Ford's cost problems.

I agree, this 4-day a week RTO (which will surely turn to 5 days a week next year) is an attempt to 'lay off' people. Nothing more or less. I come into the office twice a week and there is NO collaborating at all. People are not even sitting next to people who they work with or are part of their organization. Every time I come in I am sitting next to 'strangers'. Everyone does their Team Meetings with their headphones on at their desk. It's all a joke and leadership are beyond mo--ns at this company. I've got a couple of job prospects brewing and look forward to leaving.

@ay "sweet lease deal"?

😂😂😂😂😂

The management lease program is a shell of it's former self. Very high monthly payments and you have to have a plug EV or hybrid. And then have an charger installed on your own dime.

The management lease program is terrible.

Good bye Ford, I treasure my freedom and side gig too much to go back. Saiyanara, or however you spell it.

@b6 there is swipe in only, in the offices I’ve been, nothing prevents to install swipe out, but that energy should be used in a different area

@a7: cubicle? You think we're getting cubicles?!

WFH allowed my productivity to skyrocket - I'll gladly sandbag when returning to office. The culture is toxic and causes me to be depressed, so my work output is 100% going to suffer.

Time to look elsewhere!

They are why, what, who, when and how. But most of you are only interested in where.

Question, does Ford track the time employee is in the office? Or it’s the badge swipe when entering the building is what counts?

I am thinking if they track internet connection (Ford office network) as the time spent inside office for the people that just come in the mornings, spend 1 hr or so and then go back home

Boomers had no reason to envy them. The previous generation had to endure the hardships of the Great Depression, Dust Bowl, WWII, etc. and instead of being grateful, the boomers became the first "me" generation and developed the "greed is good" mentality. Millennials were the first generation to have it worse than their parents and this trend looks to be continuing for Gen Z. Envy isn't the word for it, more like contempt.

@b1
This “boomer” envy or whatever it is called could be annoying if we actually cared.
I find it odd that our Boomer Generation showed no such feelings for the previous generation, all we wanted to do was work and earn independence.

I guess having all those direct reports in India or UK are going to feel a different vibe when their MI based boss is in the office.

traffic is miserable in many places, 1/2 sometimes 3 hours of your life wasted , and nobody compensates for that. also people will start working for 8 hours, and no more.

@ah they are too disconnected to understand this. They have a boomer mentality and that's why they company is sinking.

@a3 yup!

@aj 100% you got that right.

Layoffs in disguise. Ford is dying with recalls and can't turn a profit. Layoffs signal maker weakness and spook shareholders.
Having people leave voluntarily hides what's really going on.

Upper management is clueless on how modern workforce actually works and communicate. It's pretty sad. They are also not tech savy people so they have no clue how OT and engineering work.
Many buildings are still outdated and absolutely stink of mold and mildew. But hey, welcome back full time for zero reason. And then with car costs, gas, miles, accidents, insurance, good luck saving money.
Of course ll6 and above don't care not are affected with their sweetheart leases.
Absolutely sickening.

@av People will leave over this if those other places offer the same or better pay, culture, benefits, etc. There are a lot of people will sacrifice pay, benefits, or culture for better remote work arrangements. If those people can no longer get those arrangements at Ford, they might as well go to a different company that offers better benefits.

"Need everyone back to the office 5 days per week."

Bwaaahahahahaa... that's the funniest joke I've heard in weeks. "Need", for what exactly?

"Many employees are still working from home, they don't even come into the office."

Great! I'm one of them. I wish we had even more.

Is their work getting done? How bout you trundle off and verify that?

People won’t leave over this, most other places are full time in office for new employees even if they have partial WFH for current employees.

My sources are saying if you don't come in 4 days a week, then your bonus target will be reduced by 50%. This was what they threatened if you didn't get the COVID jab, or file for a religious exemption by the deadline in 2021.

Also, it will make you a layoff target for the coming "cost reduction".

Oh and "It's coming....".

@an Correct, losing random talent levels from the remote force wont impact the stock immediately, it may even boost it, which directly boosts LL5+ bonuses in the short term. In the long term, losing the people who can easily leave for other opportunities likely means your losing the better end of your talent, rather than a public layoff of poor performers (which they aren't good at targeting anyway). As we've seen, most of them wont be around for those impacts.

@ad Dont forget the added 1.2% city income tax.

Have they ever thought that maybe quality and morale is very low right now because of this RTO.

We’ve all said this before… it is leadership/executives that need to be held accountable. They’re the ones skating by and collecting their bonuses why the company continues to fail.

Dougie should be #1 on the chopping block. What has he accomplished in his handful of years here other than lose $10B lol

@am If they do a layoff instead, they can get rid of the worst talent, at the risk of lowering the company's reputation and paying severance. Leadership must have calculated this and decided it is better to let the best talent go without those costs than let the worst talent and pay those costs.

@ag That is how you lose your best talent. The best ones that can find a job elsewhere will leave for better pastures. The ones who don't have that confidence in their skills will su-k it up and stay. In the end, this only weakens the company's labor force.

2 days a week is preferred. 3 is silly. 4 is just not necessary.

RTO is a tool to fire people with offering severance and it’s better PR for Ford. Why do you think cost reduction and RTO always mentioned at the same time. There’s a category of employees called “Remote Workers” like those in California- they are not impacted.

what is the point. no collaboration happens in office.

Ford needs to eliminate those who don't follow the company policy. Out the door you go.

@ab Leave the company and find a job somewhere else.

It’s ironic the first thing said in the meeting was we need to boost employee morale. Then ends the meeting with BTW RTO 4 days a week, bye!

@a6 the 5,000 people who will supposedly be working at the train station are going to have looooong walks from their parking spots to their desks. Winter will be especially fun!

What would be the consequences if people refused to RTO for 4 days?
(1) Would they get layoffs and receive severance? Or
(2) would they get fired for company policy violation (no severance)?

The reason for RTO is Synergy