Investors have told Cusco cut high earnings jobs and mainly targeting principal engineers, managers and directors
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Senior engineers and managers/Directors (aka costly resources) with not enough span of control are targets for the upcoming LRs.
If your MRR is high and you feel you have it good at Cisco, you probably are the 1 in 10 to get the package this time. Upskilling on GAI is not going to help - the IDE plugged into the AI is always going to write better code than you and you are anyways playing with machine money.
"they check in documents don't they?"
most PE's check in empty template Document or PPT with 1st slide, some poor DE at 2 or 3 levels down fills in all the details.. but PE gets the credit because his name only shows up (because he checked in rev 0)
Most PE at Cisco = normal engineer anywhere else...
No, most PEs at Cisco are far less than Engineer 1s at my first company in the 1980s by a wide range of metrics. The costs major programs incurred which were delayed by years to outright cancelled due directly to easily avoidable PE failures were staggering.
Most are PPT creators and politicians and don't know sh-t.
We've known that for decades based on the fact that the PowerPoint and Word documents were clearly plagiarized in a way that the combined texts were self contradictory nonsense because the PEs couldn't even understand what they had stolen. I got a chance to talk about it with a Senior VP and his response was "they check in documents don't they?" because that's the only metric for that kind of work. As long as the dashboards are green everyone gets a bonus!
Most PE at Cisco = normal engineer anywhere else, so far as the PE star fallen. Most are PPT creators and politicians and don't know sh-t.
This is one of the rumors I always want to believe every year. Really irks me to see Mgrs and Dirs with fewer than 5 direct reports.
There's not enough DE's & PE's to make a difference.
these posts are just cope therapy...projecting the world we want to see rather than the world that is
when has Cisco ever taken the rational path? do you even care anymore?
They make it 10 years to get from G12 to PE only for them to sit on their as--s
If all they did was eat paste I'd be fine with it. Having to stop my own work to work around and patch their egregious mistakes over and over and over again is infuriating. I've worked with a lot of them and I can't point to a single thing they got right.
They make it 10 years to get from G12 to PE only for them to sit on their as--s
First line, second line are sure to go. They produce nothing and just peon of VP and above. Easy to send them home.
Principal Engineers and Architects seem to create atmosphere of getting some work done, but they just talk and produce nothing. Easy to pack them too.
Easy to get rid, and shuffle the direct reports to others. Save lot of money while shrinking garbage work force.
Once these gone, Cisco will be short 30%, just what G2 is planning to cut with AI.
Mission accomplished.
I say start monitoring tasks that actually create something not just talk, see just how many are ghostworking - 95%+ - and go from there
Many foreign replacements champing at the bit for pennies on the dollar.
How many?
Makes perfect sense to fire PEs at Cisco. Some Bs are staying there wihtout any impact for 25 years or more.
Customers, employees and investors have said these things over the ages and nothing changed. A few up to the DE and VP level "left to spend time with their family" but they're replaced with Cisco people conditioned to make the same mistakes. Cisco is too comfortable with the mistakes it's been making for decades and until it's clearly on the brink of collapse I'm betting against leadership driving meaningful positive change.
No it's middle managers. Almost all. Removing 2-3 layers of management. PMs.
@b9 i would rather pick VP/SrDir/Dir and 2nd line middle managers... First line managers not so much.. they struggle with VP/SrDir/Dir family/buddy useless hires...
first line managers are ripe for the picking. get rid of their as--s. they produce nothing and absolutely are a payroll su-k.
Those talking/meeting/do nothing/ P.E are the darling of Director. No way they are on the LR list.