AI,AI and more AI at Cisco Live. Cisco AI is 5th graders scripting. Cisco is behind AI already got left out of AI. Attach to Kevin Weil does not make Cisco an AI company!
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AI might be 5th grade scripting, but your written post is kindergarten level command of the English language. You might benefit from a little AI assist. Just saying.
@d0 before one of my good friends left, he leveled up to Microsoft. Basically got 1.5x-2x pay and a few other incentives to leave that Cisco wasn’t able to match he actually messaged G2 and G2 responded! He was floored, they actually spoke and pinged back and forth and it ultimately led to a meeting.. he told me about it when it happened and was saying “he offered thirty minutes to meet and even though I’m leaving it felt strange actually telling someone especially G2 in ELT no I’m set” so I asked what did he say he wanted to meet over said he wasn’t sure G2 just offered. I said look don’t sweat the dam fact it’s thirty minutes and thirty minutes with an executive can feel like an eternity especially if you have no agenda and have no idea what the purpose of the call was. I said consider yourself lucky, it’s probably your last call with Cisco management and if it goes well a door way be open for the future if not you’re going to Microsoft so no big deal..
What unfolded next was quite possibly the strangest thing I’ve ever heard.
What the actual fsck are you id--ts doing over there? Funding startups that become multimillion dollar competitors repeatedly? Throwing away revenue streams because it doesn't align with racist business practises? This should be raised during the next earnings call. I'm assuming you mean the demoted SS org by McAfee crew.
Lol g2 has neither sales nor engineering chops.
I don't expect CR or G2 to go on stage and talk about deep tech details. If you think you are better off with a deep tech CEO, think again. CR is a sales guy probably too far removed from the tech, and that's a problem...but when G2 becomes CEO you will be saying he has no sales experience.
The big difference you should care about is how they approach HR. To CR, we are just rows in a database, one no better than the other...you manage HR by increasing or reducing the number of rows. With G2 on the other hand, you will likely see changes in what you are expected to do on a daily basis...I.e., are you using AI? No? Then leave. etc etc. Both approaches have their problems
a few months ago an engineer told the cr and j2 duo about bgp leaking. they looked at each other and said we need to call a plumber to fox this. the engineers in the room picked up their jaws from the floor and said you realize it has nothing to do with pipes.
at that point, j2 realized they have been caught. he goes into damage control mode and googles bgp leaking fix and starts reading stack overflows loudly to the crowd as if he was casting a spell.
The engineers just had enough of this and handed them the keyboard and asked them to fix the bgp leak.
in true incompetence one of the duo suggests he read that clear ip bgp * is enough to avert disaster. the engineers looked on in horror. j2 just typed the command and with a big grin on hos face said you guys worry too much.
half the world had to reconverge after that debacle. till next time we hear about pinky and the brain
Don’t ask R2G2 about TLS. He would think it’s a good idea to reimplement TLS inside of an LLM. 😂
Ask G2 how TLS handshake works
@a2 Which products were those?
At Cisco, it's not uncommon for the least technical person in the room to end up leading the team. First-line managers with actual engineering backgrounds often hold minimal authority — they’re stuck executing decisions made by directors or second-line managers who lack the technical depth but thrive in politics and presentation. Ideally, these upper leaders would drive innovation or create new opportunities, but in reality, they ride hype cycles, chase buzzwords, and make noise that others have to clean up. The sad truth? You do your best, make your small wins, and wait for the inevitable — your next layoff.
Imagine G2 as the CEO. Nothing would get shipped. Just a bunch of vaporware “demos” and a promise of revolutionizing the market. He’d be in that role for 2 years before getting a golden parachute. Then on to the next grift.
i still ask - where is accountability for all the acquisitions in webex? where is accountability for hypershield and all that nonsense - the hype and that's it? marketing marketing and more marketing - create the hype and move on!!
We actually had two hugely successful AI products launch. The problem is they're both competitors made if former (disrespected/abused) employees, and one has already passed its series B and is valued at over 80M. The bigoted and misguided McAfee crew under R2G2 even threw one of these away with both hands because they couldn't tyrannically control (read: outsource) the project. Doesn't matter if it's immensely profitable - all that matters is that it's assigned to a relative to manage. Just look for "zoom all over again" threads for the back story. There are capable Cisco engineers who can innovate in this area... we're just too corrupt, bigoted, and id--tic to capitalize on it.