Thoughts?
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D-mb idea. Unionization can only occur when workers are in high demand.
If you haven't noticed, the company is cutting heads every few quarters.
I sometimes wonder how there can be so many stupid people like the @Op.
Unions control votes, that can have some influence to place tariff barriers benefitting everyone! Look how good autoworkers are doing now!
Way way past due to do so….. it needs to happen
@ab, Management has demonstrated over the years that they don't have constructive ideas to improve the company beyond threatening workers with layoffs and blaming them for a culture they were asked to adopt but didn't create. I have a feeling that any organizing drive would center around working conditions rather than wages, so it's not a given that union would increase costs so much as demand something other than layoffs to appease investors, like an honest appraisal of how the company culture needs to change with input from workers.
As it is, the promise of increasing spans and reducing levels and targeting middle management looks to have been a fig leaf for deep, deep cuts to the workforce, with the hope that the remaining workers will crunch further toget something out the door for 18A/14A.
@OP, 😂😂
@a8 reach out and talk to some unions to see if they are interested. I am guessing the answer is no. If they say yes, it will probably be just another parasite trying to glean as much money as they can from this already doomed workforce. A unionized workforce would be just another boat anchor for this company to drag around until it finally sinks. Unions aren't free for the workers or the company.
Organizing workers, winning a union election, and then winning a first contract is a years-long process, so it won't help with layoffs right now, but Intel is making the case for one right now with the way that they're treating their employees.
Organizing any workplace is incredibly challenging, that's why the major labor unions had all but given up on it until the recent surge in popularity of unions.
I'm no organizer, but Intel is even more challenging because it has workers divided up between temps and permanent employees, and the divide between technicians and engineers would also need to be bridged. That's not even getting into how state and national governments may defer to the opinions of a major employer over workers.
In summary, right idea, but it will be a long, long slog. On the other hand, a respected, invested workforce wants to see it's employer succeed, and a union can really help with that.
Exactly. Efficiency goes down. Performance goes down. What happens to this company. More layoffs.
Ok komrade.
Intel’s costs are NOT competitive.
Unionization would increase costs without commensurate increases in output which would further deteriorate Intel’s balance sheet. I know math is hard for Intel employees, but you can’t really defy gravity.
It's a sure fire way to eliminate ALL the jobs. With no severance and no stock value.
The timing might actually be right - when job security is low and workers feel expendable, union appeals tend to grow stronger.
**Question: Should Intel Workers Unionize? **
** Answer: Yes and No**
Supporting AI Analysis:
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## Pros of Intel Workers Unionizing
### Job Security and Layoff Protection
Intel laid off over 15,000 employees in 2024, and unions could negotiate stronger severance packages, advance notice requirements, and criteria for layoffs beyond just "skills assessment."
### Better Wages and Benefits
Unionized workers secure higher wages and better benefits through collective bargaining. With Intel's cost-cutting focus, a union could protect compensation packages.
### Workplace Protections
Unions help with grievances and can subsidize legal fees for discrimination and wrongful termination disputes. This matters when companies are making quick decisions about who stays.
### Collective Voice
Instead of individual workers dealing with management changes and return-to-office mandates alone, they'd have organized representation.
## Cons of Intel Workers Unionizing
### Tech Industry Culture Clash
US union membership is at a record low 9.9% in 2024, and tech workers often value individual negotiation and merit-based advancement.
### Potential Workplace Tensions
Anti-union employees worry about workplace tension and giving up control of their own decisions. This could create divisions among teams.
### Union Dues and Bureaucracy
Workers would pay dues and might face slower decision-making processes compared to the fast-paced tech environment.
### Company Pushback
Intel might resist unionization efforts, potentially creating a hostile work environment during organizing.
### Limited Success in Tech
There have been union efforts at Intel before, but tech unionization remains challenging compared to traditional industries.
## Bottom Line
With the tech industry seeing massive layoffs and companies prioritizing cost-cutting over worker stability, unionization could provide Intel workers with the collective power they need. But success would depend on overcoming the individualistic tech culture and building broad support across different employee groups.
The timing might actually be right - when job security is low and workers feel expendable, union appeals tend to grow stronger.