Anyone have an update? Is this happening and what are the guidelines?
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Back to the office... I think I remember how to use pants. Probably left a pair at your house while you were working a second job or running errands.
Put on button in front of your di-ks and RTO. Slackers!!!!
@jm+1, Buddy most people do this for a job. The mission is the bonus.
@jr , this begs the question as to whether the real estate is even needed. Lab and manufacturing space, of course, but it would not surprise me if talk begins concerning consolidation of some of the sites and any subsequent offloading of the 'redundant' real estate to generate a bit of fleeting cash.
@ja that’s the d-mbest idea I’ve ever heard. Your willing to sabotage your own career and harm your future earning potential by stagnating in a role in order to ‘stick it to them’
The best revenge would be for you to find a role where you are successful.
do the nah sayers an complainers understand 4 yr college graduates are coming avable in a couple of months? they would love to take our jobs for 65K a year to start.
@jm+1jwchch56 guess what? Our executives don't care about patients' lives either. They would rather save money by offsourcing our jobs and making the rest of us come back to the office because they are losing money on the real estate.
Seeing this thread now tells me why our company and stock has declined. We care more about stupid RTO and bitcoin than actually doing a job we are paid for. Time to clean up the riff raff and hire real people who don’t act drama queens. Good luck to those entitled people in the job market, you’re in for a rude awakening on how good you had it.
What a bunch of cry babies that can’t even tolerate 4 days in the office. You don’t deserve to work for this company if you can’t even su-k it up and get to work. Can’t wait to see you all go so real mission driven people are employed and doesn’t cry about a small thing about RTO.
How I view the new changes Remote stays remote. 5 days on site stay 5 days on site. Flex is being changed from 3 days to 4 days onsite. Now if your not even paying attention to your Flex status. i.e ghost badging or not badging at all is basically stealing your pay check requirements on FLEX status. showing up on random days when you feel like is not a good work ethics amd a violation yourFlex status.
It not very hard to look in the mirror and say do I even deserve to be employed by MDT?
Just saying, I 'm onsite 5 days a week for the last 20yrs and don't see the bi--hing about company new rules as productive and insulting to your c0=worker
For those who are “quiet quitting” and tanking at your job, you should be ashamed of yourself. There are sick and dying people out there needing our products and yet you decided to be selfish and comprise our products. Due yourselves a favor and just quit already, we don’t tolerate people who hall a-s their job.
@hp+1jwchch56 Exactly that! These leaders don't even show up to the office to participate in these hallway discussions.
@OP according to many an expert, big companies are doing this for a few key reasons. The number one I’ve seen is that they need to thin the workforce but don’t want to undergo the burden and cost of more RIFs, so this is way to make people quit. Best way to stick it to the man here would be for us all to KEEP OUR JOBS and produce as little as possible without compromising your position. Make them eat this!
@j7 I’d go one further, if I’m in a group of 8 where nobody respects the manager I’m looking for my next. Sounds like that is a group where careers deadend, or certainly not able to facilitate career growth if the manager doesn’t have the respect of the team and they just do whatever the he-l they want.
@hv if a manager has 8 insubordinate direct reports who fail to do what is asked of them then I think the manager would be on the chopping block.
Personally, I think the policy is a joke. Professionally, I understand that following policy and executing my work to requirements is why I collect a paycheck that isn’t pink. If the policy was to show up to work everyday in a 5 piece suit and a clown wig, I’d do it but probably also be looking for alternative employment opportunities. It’s up to you to decide if this new policy works for you or not.
I think the policy is (unfortunately) a reflection of the culture, and it’s up the the individuals to decide if Medtronic is still a good fit for their own careers and aspirations.
@h3 I agree that at will employment allows them to technically fire you whenever, but I also don’t think most managers would want to fire their entire team because then what? I think that they would at least try to find some replacements and that will take time. And who interviews the replacements and why wouldn’t we just say hey don’t work here? And I hope most managers are not such cowards that they wouldn’t at least discuss with you first. Everything happens slow in corporate world and I’m not convinced one manager can fire 8 people on the same day very easily. It has to go up and down the chain.
What I’m saying is they can’t fire ALL of us because we are the ones doing the actual work. This is why we need a u n I o n
The in-office collaboration being vital argument is BS. Projects regularly have lone core team members at sites where no design, testing, or manufacturing for their project takes place. And those hallway conversations they're so fond of saying are so important? News flash - those conversations are rarely about work. Medtronic has been chipping away at employee benefits/perks for years. Medtronic clearly doesn't trust their employees to do their work unless they have them right under their thumb. Are there people who abuse work from home? Absolutely, but don't punish the vast majority who are honest and productive.
I love how the executive email provided zero data to back up the claim that working from the office will improve performance. What a joke.
Embedded in the resource material is a little gem about "your laptop and/or badge swipe will be automatically tracked toward your onsite requirement". But the company would never spy on employees, right? [Insert Anakin/Padame meme here.]
@hb preach it brother. Everyone needs to remember that like it or not we are all on the same team.
One thing I know about trolls is they don’t have friends and haven’t gotten laid in a long time. Go take a walk and do some self reflection. If trolling your co-workers makes you feel good a change of employer would be the best for everyone (yourself included). Hope everyone, even the trolls, has nice weekend.
In many ways, this isn't a bad move. Medtronic is cursed with waaaaaay too many long timers in MN, sitting on fat as--s waiting to retire. Medtronic was a beautiful company for the longest time: unfortunately that means a lot of deadweight sitting around and not being willing to change or innovate. Some of those people just need to get the boot, or Medtronic will continue to lag.
You know them. They're in meetings, 20 year tenure, same role for 15 years and say "that's not my job" and they don't direct you to the person whose job it actually is.
They're a problem and it isn't bad if some of them leave.
However Goff Marthae is a failure of a CEO and is by far the bigger problem.
Terminations of at-will employment typically doesn’t come with reasons, because providing reasons opens them up to lawsuits.
Why give yourself exposure when it’s not necessary?
@e5 Most states are at-will employment. Firing someone for lack of RTO is pretty simple in those states. Give 2 warning letters, give some time to comply, and if there's still a lack of compliance you can let them go. It will not take months. It's absolutely enforceable, from the sense at-will employment means they can let you go for any reason.
@ed posting during YOUR work hours you mean. Guess what; it's a 24/7 global manufacturing operation. Plenty of us on the graveyard shifts you g*bsh_tes on on a cushy 8-5 won't go near, let alone provide support for, and in different time zones.
@er yes, it would be one thing if pay was better and they didn’t keep making health insurance worse, making the travel policies worse, removing summer hrs, and constantly generally showing disregard for employee morale. People might be more amenable to changes like this if they didn’t come after a steady decline of our benefits over the last ~5 years. A lot of companies with the 4-5 day mandates pay significantly higher than Medtronic for roles at the same experience level.
Seems like @f4+1jwchch56 needs more work with the amount of time trolling here
Yet here you are posting along with everyone else.
@OP
Guidelines as simple as getting your azz back to your desks & work.
@eb
Stop whining and get back to work. Your back order issues don't remotely apply to 90% of the rest of us. Fix your own problems.
I think most companies have been having their employees back in the office 4-5 days for a while now. Medtronic has let it drag out for some time now. That said as a retired employee from Medtronic they have really cut benefits and picked at the moral of employees. The way they treat employees is much different vs 20-25 years ago.
@ed Yes, because nobody gets time for lunch or any breaks. 🙄
@ed+1jwchch56 I don't even work here and was just curious on the matter, but I would not want you on my team because you just made it obvious that you're clueless on the subject of business.
@eb there is no evidence that working in the office is more efficient or would help us solve our back order issues, unless you have a job that actually does the manufacturing. Most of us are saying we are more able to help produce life saving devices from home
The fact there are people here posting during working hours shows how much free time people in their day wasting Medtronic’s resources. This RTO is a blessing, will weed out the weak, we don’t need weak people working at this company. Bye bye
@eb do you want to explain how being in the office on a teams meeting at your desk is somehow magically better than being at home on the exact same meetings?? I’m sure our 2 hr commute will somehow help us do MORE work when our work is entirely on teams?
Stop whining and get back to work. No one should be working from home when we have back order issues and our main job is supplying life saving products to customers. Don’t like it, go work for some other charity.
@d5 what is the rumor about 50 mile radius?
I hope everyone knows and spreads the word that they should NOT submit their resignation like it says on the policy site. Make the managers actually enforce this policy, minimum you’ll get several months worth of extra pay while they try to figure out if they can fire you, and maybe they will have to pay severance because I don’t think any of their policy is actually enforceable in legal terms. Let’s see how the managers like it when they are like you haven’t been in the office and we are all like SHOOT I FORGOT oopsies :)
@dy your coworkers are not opponents, but people you have more in common with than the c-suite. Don’t take out your frustration on them because of what the boss does.