Down she goes....
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Copper will just be turned off within 3 years. I was told this was the plan.
What do you think is a fair price for the consumer business?
"Lumen will be gone soon, and the buyer is not taking in all the Lumen employees"
Ok, sure. Proof? Who's going to do the work? Ai? Youre really hoping lumen fails and people lose their jobs. How did lumen hurt you so bad? Lumen employee steal your wife? You get fired for non performance?
"You’re comparing a “small co op” to a company with millions of miles of fiber. Lumen has more fiber in one city than a small co op has in its entire network. You may also be surprised who those companies and small co ops lease fiber access from on the national side.
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More fiber than more fiber, yet still can't make money. Perhaps now it makes sense why Lumen is in it's dye-spiral over the cliff. Lumen will be gone soon, and the buyer is not taking in all the Lumen employees.
“Any large company. Lots of smaller companies and coops are 100% fiber already.”
You’re comparing a “small co op” to a company with millions of miles of fiber. Lumen has more fiber in one city than a small co op has in its entire network. You may also be surprised who those companies and small co ops lease fiber access from on the national side.
“Good luck trying to sell off just local fiber. The equipment is intermixed in the C.O.'s, half of goon/xgspon is fed from local data switches, the rest from National owned data switches. National doesn't have enough techs to run jumpers”
Agree. What a nightmare to just buy the fiber. Make for some weird crew rooms. The logistics of splitting a local network in half don’t make sense. Who gets the co? Who gets the real estate? Doubt att wants to take the fiber from an mpop while lumen leases the transport access to em. seems the only way it works is att buys mass markets in whole. The money is in the CO anyway. Don’t really see any layoffs occurring after a sale, no matter the name on the building someone still has to do the local work.
Any large company. Lots of smaller companies and coops are 100% fiber already.
Buying any part of Lumen would be a money pit before it turns a profit. If it turns a profit.
“The fiber infrastructure is a patchwork quilt, even in the largest markets. There is no where where Lumen is 100% fiber. Getting to that would require billions after the purchase.”
There’s nowhere that any company has 100 percent covered. For anything.
The fiber infrastructure is a patchwork quilt, even in the largest markets. There is no where where Lumen is 100% fiber. Getting to that would require billions after the purchase.
Good luck trying to sell off just local fiber. The equipment is intermixed in the C.O.'s, half of goon/xgspon is fed from local data switches, the rest from National owned data switches. National doesn't have enough techs to run jumpers so local is doing all of the physical work at no charge. It's a total mess and the back end systems are even worse.
The Lumen plan was Brightspeed 2.0. Overbuild national, cut the enterprise customers and broadband uplinks to it, keep transport & backend systems, and force any buyer be a hostage: paying essentially license fees while required to provide leased fiber at unfavorable terms. AT&T would be stupid to walk into that deal.
The bottom line is mass Markets will eventually be sold weither it's AT&T , Verizon or T-Mobile and they will all basically do the same thing.Leverage the fiber that is there and turn the copper markets off and offer a wireless type solution, layoffs will follow.At least AT&T and Verizon have pension plans in place .
"If AT&T is seriously considering wasting billions to buy the shrinking local ILEC side only to need to dump even more billions into it, they need their heads examined more than the Lumen SLT."
If they can pull off just buying the fiber infrastructure then there's nothing that needs to be dumped into it. What theyre purchasing is already there. If they want to build out they can but have to option not to. I suspect they only want the transport but any local end users they can package with their own streaming and internet. Verizon already did it last year and att is trying to keep up. If i hadnt retired a couple years ago i'd be all for this deal. Alas, im just rooting for my old coworkers to benefit from this.
Wheres the starlink wifi guy to claim fiber is dead and no longer needed? Verizon tmobile and att will abandon fiber and just use 5g correct? Weird the big wireless companies just keep buying up all that fiber backbone
Great, another big area offloaded soon for a MS takeover.
Hey dumshit, no it's not. Go back to Yahoo and let the adults who actually work at this company talk about layoffs.
Dum--ss. Yes it is.
It's branding, dummy. It's not a separate business unit.
No consumer fiber unit? It’s called gpon and quantum dummy.
Pulled out of someone's a-s. There is no consumer fiber unit.
If AT&T is seriously considering wasting billions to buy the shrinking local ILEC side only to need to dump even more billions into it, they need their heads examined more than the Lumen SLT.
Some rumors are close to 9 Billion. That would be huge for this company.