My FLM had a 1:1 with me this week. South EU CX. No salary bump though. Not sure what to think about it.
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Consider yourself pretty much fired if it's true. The word was think twice about doing that unless you were not meeting expectations last review or if you were sc--wing off and had executive support.
@c6 could not agree with you more. G12 is a carrot on the stick and you're just a dog on a treadmill trying to catch it. Never ending criteria
Well if nothing, you are one grade from a PE. That'll take you 10+ years if ever happens
Most engineers will never have the skills to perform at the PE level at any company. TL is just a made up set of steps to give you the illusion you're advancing. If you can't grasp the Pigeonhole Principle even after it is explained to you you don't deserve the word "engineer" in your title and the long list of Cisco's PEs I had to work with failed this test and many more.
I received a dry promotion at Cisco when there were wage freezes. As my manager said, "congratulations, you now rank lower relative to your peers and you get nothing for it.
"Promoted shortly after being hired" looked far better on my resume than "did nothing but fix bugs I didn't create, work that's many levels below either title because work that justified my salary wasn't available." If you work at a high level you should want a continuous stream of difficult tasks that many others cannot do, and you want to work for management that understands the value that brings. Anything less and you're not only at risk of getting tossed from your current job but there is a decent chance you'll not be able to perform at that high level at the next job.
Well if nothing, you are one grade from a PE. That'll take you 10+ years if ever happens
Similar scenario happened to me in US years ago.
Top performer at lower grade, bumped one grade, transferred to a new manager several months after bump.
Three months after transfer, was LR'd.
Convinced it was all planned out.
New manager was true weasel. He survived two more years and was also LR'd.
Like the US Government, Cisco is full of management that essentially do nothing, and could be easily downsized.
Then again, I was also part of the same hypocrisy chain of command, so there is no escape from the Squid Games.
Never expect sudden promotion 1:1 to not come with hidden agenda. Lot more under the turf, and hope foe the best.
Cisco standard practice is to promote to a higher grade, expect a lot more, same base salary. Hard to keep IPF and bonus targets. Easy to cut a G12 with extra visibility and job expectations. LC openly says she doesn’t like long timers….
Been there, done that, got LRed within a year. Start looking for a new role, sooner the better.
More requirements to meet (aka “visibility”), a higher bar to meet IPF for exceeding the personal performance factor—and last year, they cut the G12 bonus. They slightly increased base pay at the time to offset it.
Moving from G11 to G12 without a corresponding base pay adjustment just means they’re expecting more from you without offering any additional compensation.
Title change helps for the next job. Find a place where your value compensated.
Total lie there.
Those “dry” promotions were quite common even before this mass promotion. Your bonus targets and stock eligibility will at least go up, so in 2 years from now you might see some extra $$ in the bank account. Update your LinkedIn and CV accordingly. Sorry to hear no pay bump, but this is hardly a surprise.