Apparently Chuck recently “recommended” during a visit to a European country that all employees should show up at the office if they want to build a career at Cisco. Is RTO coming soon, or will Cisco adopt a model similar to the one Dell has in place?
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Chucky doesn't even live near SJC anymore. He'd have to RTO himself first before anyone else.
Soon you'll be forced to ride the horse to work, read analog clocks and write in cursive.
When do I get my IP rotary phone?
Imagine actually going to work
why would chuck want people to rto when sjc and rtp campuses are always shedding real estate?
rto where? in a tent outside?
Soon you'll be forced to ride the horse to work, read analog clocks and write in cursive.
Let's not forget that most of Cisco has been remote since well before covid.
Sure Chuck .. you lead the way first?
I’m actually pretty partial to working with people in person sometimes. Just depends on the nature of the work, but Cisco has set themselves up for failure if they actually “cared” about people’s careers. Everyone in my org is totally spread out. If suddenly we had decent office space, we would just be using Webex (ba-f) but in the office. Lol
I'd sooner quit than RTO.
Career my a-s. I will stay home and wait for fire
RTO wouldn't work at Cisco.
With how stretched thin all the teams are already - they'd completely collapse if you just cut randomly (not all of the work from home folks are top performers, but some are - and Cisco barely has any talent left).
That and there just aren't enough offices in the low-cost hiring areas that Cisco has focused on, to do RTO. Cisco's painted itself into a corner.
The idea is to “RTO” in name only, and then dismiss you with cause when you don’t want to move your family to some shithole where “your job has been relocated”. Basically just another sc-mmy tactic to supplement dubious PIPs to avoid paying severance. They sold a lot of buildings and won’t be buying them back. Splunk boondoggle left the company cash-starved and even if they had the cash, they wouldn’t invest in real estate outside of “lower cost countries” any time soon.
Just another way to reduce liabilities and make it easier and cheaper to fire people in countries where workers rights and the concept of a living wage exist as societal norms and expectations.
Code for layoffs
from my perspective in SBG, RTO would basically mean a shutdown
people are all over the place, with hardly any meaningful concentration in a particular locale
so even if they were "in office", those "offices" would be all over the place, different time zones etc
I love WFH but SBG is proof that if you aren't properly managing it, you really do end up with a ton of people just slacking off and keeping things barely-alive
This is another push to reduce headcount without lr.