It won’t help. You can work your a-s off, and they’ll still kick you to the curb. Cisco is like any other big corporation - you are just a number, and when your time is up you’ll be gone regardless of your value. To avoid regretting the extra effort, overtime, and energy spent for nothing later on, do only what you must to keep your job until you're laid off. Have a life in the meantime.
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Capitalism implicitly states that people are expendable. Cisco has to play by the rules of this game. Profit is what matters, profit at any cost, not people. People are the means to make profit. Capitalism convinces people to buy stuff they don’t really need. We don’t really need all this tech sh-t. It has made us as a society sedentary and miserable reflected in the mental health issues of our day, corruption of the young and vulnerable, and our incessant consumerism that ultimately never makes us happy nor will it ever. I’m not suggesting socialism is any better but there is a happy medium in the middle ground.
Don’t shoot the message bearer.
If you worked at your job as hard as you type on this board, you'd still be around.
Some of us did which is why we have far better jobs at far better companies. A few of us return here to try to teach you how to prepare for moving on even if you want to stay at Cisco because if you are laid off and not prepared you may be in for a world of hurt.
Given how many people still show up here every round complaining about Cisco's "first" layoff and how everyone will quit despite 24 years of layoffs at Cisco to the contrary many still at Cisco need an awakening beyond words and beyond evidence.
If you worked at your job as hard as you type on this board, you'd still be around.
It’s American Capitalism Corporate Belief that unless their Azz is on Fire, they don’t work.
I'm going to change the bipolar phrase "they don't work" to the more correct "most don't put in much of an effort and even when pushed don't do the work they should be capable of." From trades like electricians and plumbers who know nothing about code to doctorate level professions like law and medicine where again they don't know what they need to to solve the problems they're tasked with and don't put in the effort to learn, the results are a lot of extremely costly mistakes rarely paid for by the people causing them.
Just look at Cisco. Four routing and switching operating systems made from large amounts of cut and pasted code forked out on to a large number of branches to do the work of one and decades of static analysis as a way to help teach people what they're doing wrong and the code is still a massive fail at every level.
Don’t try to earn your place
Do what most at Cisco do. Whether you're putting in an hour a week or 80 hours a week don't learn anything new and keep making the same mistakes so you will become unemployable at any decent company as so many of your peers already have.
Or take responsibility for yourself, use whatever resources and opportunities you can acquire at Cisco to get better so you'll be more capable than the others pushed out in the next layoff or you may even have the opportunity to choose to jump jobs before you are laid off. Even Cisco's failures can provide valuable knowledge and experience for the very few who choose to learn from them.
"don't try to earn your place" is an accepted mindset at Cisco already
it sure is making folks cranky though
I chalk it up to folks understanding the layoff cycle at Cisco is now as predictable as the changing of seasons, with an additional understanding that for many, they will be absolutely sc--wed once they are pushed in to this job market. I don't think it is an exaggeration to say 50% of Cisco staff are working their last tech job
Sounds like you don’t have grit.
It’s American Capitalism Corporate Belief that unless their Azz is on Fire, they don’t work. Constant fear, managing out/displacing key folks, shuffling team and LRs are the medium towards that goal. No one escapes their scrutiny, it’s only a matter of time. Another month, another layoffs, it’s all typical.
No doubt all these layoffs and threats of future ones have stifled intervention at lost to Cisco
"100% until leadership changes"
Microsoft prints money every week and still has constant layoffs. It's corporate America in 2024.
Specially in AMER and EU
Absolutely accurate. Multiple merit raises, multiple CR's a quarter, overachieve your numbers, praise from c-level customers, doesn't matter. Curb. They keep you locked with RSU's. Take the package and never look back.
100% until leadership changes we're all expendable to ensure they can hit their #s and pay the shareholders.