Anything over two days at the office is too much (even that is a problem, but I can stomach that much). There is no need for it. I know the majority of us are more productive from home. We are perfectly able to collaborate without having to be within a few feet of each other. There is literally no reason to bring us back other than to not feel that having offices is a waste (which it is, at this point).
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It’s amazing what excuses people come up with. In a city of 8 million people and a million of commuters every day, chances of violent crime are statistically minuscule, a fraction of 1 percent. Your posh suburbs aren’t any safer. Manhattan is not East Hartford or Newark.
Yes many people took their jobs knowing that they would have to commute into NYC every day, but most of these people did so in a very different NYC, one where violent crime was much lower than it is today, one where people didn’t feel that they have to line up against the wall on the subway platform hoping that someone won’t push them onto the tracks, one where people didn’t need to feel that they need to be out of NYC before dark, one where people didn’t feel that they had to dress down so that they don’t draw attention to themselves from potential criminals, one where it wasn’t completely obvious that they could work just as effectively, if not better when working at home.
You just ignoring the fact aig closed the offices that were in the suburbs moving people to the city location?
While moving many of the roles people collaborate with from those locations overseas.
Please stop complaining about NY commuting. You all took jobs in New York because they pay more than you can earn in the suburbs. You knew what the commute would be like.
To the man or woman that references a 12 minute drive, you couldn't handle a back-office function for a day. Aig has consolidated 3 full time jobs into one cause there so cheap and don't care about the employees well being. When was the last time you spent 18 hrs a day for two weeks straight just to close the ledger. Seems to me like you don't do much, just drive a hundred miles a day in your car.
For the producer post below, so sad that you spend your Saturdays reading the layoffs gossip for AIG, and have no idea how long it takes to get to the office for individual employees in NY, much less the danger of riding on the Subway. What do you do for Sundays?
If you are a producer for AIG you should be ashamed for selling your customers are this inept company.
I don’t know how many people have a 12 minute drive to the office. In NY many have to spend 3 plus hours a day commuting to the office and that includes riding on the subway, which is not a safest place to be these days. And then once we get to the office, we wind up on Teams meetings with people who are in different parts of the country anyway.
As a producer for AIG it’s good to know this is the mindset of our back office probably explains why things that should take a week take a month. Our customers very much appreciate it, we’ve been on the road, working until 9 PM, and driving 100 plus miles a day for a year. Good to know the 12 minute drive to the office counts as (your work day). If this is the mindset, Glad we are outsourcing the majority of support work at corebridge to companies that have been in the office for the last 10 months. For the amazing support staff (and I know many of them), AIG will find a way to keep you in most cases, or you’ll be quickly rehired elsewhere (probably with a pay raise).
Post below is deeply flawed. Yes you’ll get “promoted” (I.e fill the rank of the manager / executive who left), but everyone in the industry knows a twenty something year old regional manager isn’t in that position at the current AIG because they’re a shining star, and you have no autonomy to actually make effective change. You’ve just been promoted to first mate of the Titanic, and rather than get on a life boat, you’re staying and sending out post cards letting everyone know how great your promotion is. Congratulations and best of luck with your “career”
Man I love this Company, until I do my job flawlessy they let me do whatever I want and also don't mind if I slack sometimes, don't know why you hate AIG so much. Sure don't expect promotions to ever go the best employes... No serious training and improvement plans... But with all the people leaving your career can improve literally remaining still. I have seen lot of people getting promoted just because there was anyone else left (like during a war). I'll just wait for my opportunity!
Here is a taste of reality for many of you. You are already 3/4 of the way through the year. Holidays are coming and you likely have a lot of pto left. It is stupid to leave now unless you have a great offer on the table. Play the game for the remainder of 2022. Use your pto strategically. Finish 2022 and qualify for whatever meager sti bonus they give. Do the bare minimum for a few months.
Use the remainder of this year and pto to set yourself up for 2023. Update resume, network yourself and so on. Companies often hire in the first two quarters of the year. As soon as sti hits your bank account in February it's bye bye time for AIG.
If you decide to stay after sti is paid in early 2023, just shut up and take your lumps because you are either too lazy or too unmarketable to go to a decent company, so AIG is probably the best you are ever going to do. Just accept that you are mediocre, and AIG is probably the place for you.
I’m incredibly productive for myself working from home. Working out, side hustles, searching for new jobs, swiping right, lunch dates.... it’s great. I also don’t have to stay up all night to binge shows. The key is finding a claims group that was already WFH anyways.
Looking forward to suing this company if they enforce any kind of RTO. Will throw everything and anything at them and watch it stick. Obviously they must have outsourced their legal department if they’re allowing this to happen.
pipe down people, you will go to the office and act like you like it or you will be shipped off to Accenture. You decide.
Working from home allows for more time to actually do work.
Commute time cuts in to time that can be better spent.
But that isn't necessary at AIG, so when working remotely I have signed in at my start time and turned off my PC at quitting time. Spending time with my family is far more important than burning myself out answering an"urgent" email or call that comes in at the end of the work day.
Getting let go from AIG doesn't require a legitimate reason, you can work your a-s off and they will still let you and your department go on a whim.
There are also many things that no longer need a PC to do. Your smart phone is way more capable to accomplish most tasks than your work PC that is loaded with tracking software.
Everyone posting about how they aren’t going back to the office, you’ve missed the point. That’s the whole reason for getting you back to the office…if you don’t comply = bye bye no severance needed and good luck with any recourse.
If you do comply and start doing significantly less, it’ll be noted and either you’re a cheap enough employee they will keep paying you your meager salary to do your menial task before they outsource it somewhere.
All the people who don’t need to come back into the office because they’ve been deemed valuable enough have already been identified / marked, they aren’t hard to find.
Let’s see how this actually plays out over time. Many life insurer peers are offering full remote or extremely flexible “hybrid” arrangements where workers only come to the office when it really makes sense (e.g. L&D, brainstorming, team building, design sessions). Companies that don’t adjust to peers will hemorrhage talent
I always feel like PZ is watching me and I get no privacy, whoa oh oh. I always feel like PZ is watching me or is it just a dream whoa oh oh.
Good luck finding a job that doesn’t require you to come to the office. Pandemic measures are over and most companies want employees back in the office. This is not an AIG phenomenon.
And good luck with those “hard limits” and counting your commuting time as work time. The same person that wrote that will soon be posting about how unfair it is that they were let go “for no reason.”
It is called corporate babysitting. If you are in the office AIG can keep an eye on what you do all day. No more posting on this site, you wouldn't dare do that on an AIG computer. No more two hour lunch breaks. No more side gigs on AIG time. Harder to quiet quit when your manager is looking over your shoulder.
It has zero to do with collaboration. PZ is watching you now, just try to step out of line and see what happens. Your slacker days are over and PZ is loving it.
If you have to commute to the office, be sure to set up hard limits on start and end time. Ideally commute time should be counted as work time, because that is still your time. Anything that comes in close to when you have to commute back home can wait until the following day.
For me too, the more they force me to work at the office the less I produce.also, considering that if I reduce my workload too much I risk to be made redundant, so better off slack a bit to have some backlog and stay a little bit safier