Thread regarding T-Mobile layoffs

This is the coldest layoff I've ever seen

Trust me, I was with Nortel during the 10 long hellish years between 2000-2010 when they averaged laying off 100 people per month.

This layoff was colder than anything I've ever witnessed, and this, coming from a company who frames themselves as "caring" and woke. At the last CEO hands-on, when the question of layoffs came up, the answers that came from the senior mgmt was the type of answers a politician gives when they do not want to answer with the truth. It was evasive, with no information as to what was on the horizon. When the senior mgmt ceases being transparent, expect the worse.

It was also cold in that this layoff was not based on merit but almost certainly based on salary, which means people with years of service, who have been loyal to T-Mob were not given any warning that they were on the chopping block. They weren't even given a time period to find another position within the company, so that at least the company could gain from that person's skills in another dept.

I doubt I will ever believe anything this company ever says, certainly not what this CEO says.

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As a vendor to TMO, what I saw from an objective viewpoint, this was cold and illogical. Several good people that actually went above and beyond are now gone while many sub par performers in same org still are there.

The impact to morale is also very detrimental. None of my TMO POC are feeling safe and few have a give all I got attitude in the wake of this.

I have been the lay off victim and messenger, for large OEM like Nortel and Ericsson down to vendors to a carrier and as a carrier operator employee/manager. I have seen the best way possible to handle this and the worst way. This ranks near the bottom.

I saw this on the horizon and declined an offer to convert to an FTE at TMO. Had the timing wrong, but the outcome correct.

For those stating managed services model is the future, you are likely correct. (lack of) Leadership from Sprint want a do over in managed services and OEM like Nokia and E/// have the ears of Executive (lack of)Leadership at TMO. And let’s be honest, many in TMO rank and file have allowed that poison seed to take hold and grow into the poisonous vine making its growth known here today.

I pray for all those affected and hope you realize though this is hard, in the end, not a place you wanted to be really. In todays market, if you are worth your salt you will find better elsewhere quickly.

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Post ID: @1jsy+1iu0Rj1U

"Been through these on both sides over my 38 years. Never seen one that doesn't feel cold to the recipient."

Layoffs are never easy, but I've seen more compassionate layoffs. True, the impacted people will always be hurt, but in this case, I saw people walk away shell-shocked, unable to comprehend, feeling betrayed. If compared to divorce, there are all sorts of ways a divorce can go down, from mutual agreement, where both parties admit that the marriage just wasn't meant to be and go their separate ways, to a complete shock when one partner finds the other not to be the person they thought them to be. This layoff is like that latter.

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Post ID: @1fcd+1iu0Rj1U

Been through these on both sides over my 38 years. Never seen one that doesn't feel cold to the recipient.

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Post ID: @iqc+1iu0Rj1U

"and I can guarantee to you that whatever political axe you are looking to grind here"

I assure you, there is no political axe here. This is an opinion board, and the point of my post is that this was indeed an uncaring layoff that was not communicated in any way shape or form to the employees of the magnitude, nor did mgmt even seek to place anyone. This layoff smacks of trimming the fat to the bone, which particularly grinds anyone who listened to the "WE JUST HAD THE BEST. QUARTER, EVER!" nonsense. The woke comment is to illustrate the hypocrisy of a common who promotes themselves as "caring". Corporate bs, and I feel sorry for anyone who buys it.

"Go have a stroke"

Retaliating with attacks is always the sign of a small mind.

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Post ID: @zph+1iu0Rj1U

Oh yeah Rick, because senior management is usually so transparent about their motivations. Uh huh. And wtf are you even talking about, "company who frames themselves as woke"? Nobody who isn't watching OAN 8 hours a day (instead of, you know, actually working) even knows or cares what "woke" means, and I can guarantee to you that whatever political axe you are looking to grind here, my newly former multinational telecom employer dgaf and never did, but I'm happier if you got all wound up in the process. Go have a stroke and enjoy the tens of thousands of work-free ka-chings you'll be banking through November when you get your big payoff, assuming you were even part of yesterday's layoff and not just trolling.

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Post ID: @llx+1iu0Rj1U

I agree with the Ulf comment. I do not trust him. Also look at leadership - Cano is also orchestrating how things were at Sprint - he is essentially whispering in Seiverts ear consultant to CEO.

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Post ID: @ggx+1iu0Rj1U

Ulf is a former Ericsson exec and was brought in to form RNEO and transition all engineering organizations to the managed service model -just like many other European wireless network operators

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Post ID: @khb+1iu0Rj1U

By comparison, the RIFs following the MetroPCS acquisition were well managed and perceived to be fair by most engineers. Over a period of months, with many more in planning, Corp organized the new engineering business requirements and published all new positions nationally, offered incentives and relo packages with the new roles, and communicated warnings of a impending RIF following a cutoff date. The layoffs at the end were timed and expected by all who didn’t want to apply to the new positions and seemingly used only as a last resort. Much different than this week. May be the previous method was too costly in time or money to be used again. Very unfortunate for our company and perhaps indicative of how different leadership is now. We are definitely a different company culture today. Next big news: this RIF is intentional so cost-conscious contract engineering services can take over sooner. The network we have built or assembled from others is seen by the C Suite and Board as a managed commodity now.

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