Thread regarding VMware layoffs

This forum should not exist

Or more to the point, should not have to exist.

It shouldn't exist because if we had senior management that was competently handling the merger, it wouldn't need to. But we don't.

Management reaction to the merger has been shameful. It has been pitiful. The day it happened, ALL managers, ALL OF THEM should have made calming the troops their number one priority. Instead we have Raghu tell us to shut up and stay focused.

Well guess what? People cannot focus. People are worried! And rightfully so.

The only reason this forum exists is because VMware's incompetent management left an information gap so wide that this site is at least trying to fill it. Because damn sure management isn't!

Look at the joke of the broadcom thread in slack. Management should have been answering those questions every single day. Instead we get some weekly wrap up? Full of non-answers? Pathetic.

And it further occurred to me that this is what things will be like moving forward. VMware management is either incompetent or...nope I've settled on incompetent. VMware management is simply incompetent. So anytime there is a need for management to act bravely or ethically or even competently, well we've seen what they are made of. And it ain't much!

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Post ID: @OP+1iP92bLm

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Leadership could arm employees with information to make better life decisions. They aren't, which is why people are coming here to the exact point of the original poster

For instance...

What will the severance packages look like
How much notice will people get
Will their be a warn period
What's the updated estimated window for closing
Will Hock execute the turtles on day 1

These are all important questions they could answer instead of pretending everything will be fine and dandy

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Post ID: @2qjs+1iP92bLm

Can I get a tree?

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Post ID: @1mcb+1iP92bLm

This forum is the best. I come here right after the company meeting to get the dirt.

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Post ID: @1cnu+1iP92bLm

Focus on what exactly? The fact that the company was already a dumpster fire, with laughable product and service quality, and a horrid customer experience? It should come as no surprise that the 2.0 version of the mo--ns who ruined the company are also completely fumbling everything related to the acquisition, all while planting trees and sending e-cards.

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Post ID: @ncs+1iP92bLm

I just wish there was a way to volunteer for the package.

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Post ID: @gkr+1iP92bLm

Bottom line here is - redundancies or not

  1. Stay and do your f___ing job until you get fired (with or without package)
  2. Leave

You decide your own destiny ... If you cannot bear sitting in the (home) office every day wondering what is happening and you got 0 motivation - give it up. It only ever gets worse as the process will take months.

I did and I resigned.

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Post ID: @pzr+1iP92bLm

Close your pie ho-e.

While there is plenty of things to point out about our mgmt team, one thing they MUST DO is keep the company running and cannot speak about things that are not in stone/done/finished/closed. Literally, they cannot say "this will happen, on this day, with this many layoffs, in these depts, etc" Because they don't know for sure.

They know there will be changes, and at this point probably have some ideas of where they will be, but nothing is for sure. He-l the deal might not even close. And that has to be kept in your mind as an exec.

My last acquisition (smaller company than VMW) we at Sr. mgmt level knew for 2 or 3 months before the employee announcement. Our employees didn't know until about 30 days prior to public announcement. Why?

Simple, the purchasing company is doing due diligence. Going over the books, looking at the products, reviewing the sales process, reviewing the staffing levels, making plans for partners, going through the legal process with the .GOV entities, looking at all contracts, customer break downs, support, geo locations, physical assets bothing land, hardware, cash, etc, and of course legalities around employees, their local laws, contracts, etc. etc.

Here it is a public company being bought so they had to announce it. I think it would be better (for employees) that it wasn't even publicly announced until 30-45 days out. But that goes against SEC rules here in the US and as bad for investors.

Besides, what if once a week Raghu or Sumit does a current status update and comes out and says "As of today we know 40% of you will be laid off. And these 2 BUs are probably going to be sold off"

The next week: "we decided to change the BUs sold off. No longer the 2 we just mentioned, but now its the third. And HR and EUC will be impacted big by the layoffs"

Then 2 weeks later "EUC leads in ARR and financially we can't move them because we need ARR and cant cut them deep, now we are thinking we cut 10% more from Core, and get a few percent from the EMEA teams to make up for it."

Week 6: "Forget what we said. The numbers are now clearer......"

See the problem here? That type of cr-p with weekly or monthly updates going on for MONTHS on end would ruin the business by ruining the people. YOU MAKE NO ANNOUNCEMENTS UNTIL IT IS WRITING AND SIGNED OFF ON.

So please stop thinking with different mgmt on our end this would be any different. It wouldn't. Pick the greatest CEO, presidents, VPs from any of your past experiences and they would be in the same boat these people are... We are frustrated because we see our execs have also ran the company into the ground and now we see that pain along with this acquisition pain. Any exec you think would be better would be looking at 10's of millions of dollars in CIC payments to make this a success. They would not blow that for your comfort.

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Post ID: @iiv+1iP92bLm

There are a lot of assumptions here. Assumptions that the leadership knows more than everyone else. They may in fact not know. But even if they did, what could they do that was different? If they came out and said:" 1000's of you will be laid off in 6 months" then obviously everyone would instantly run for the exits. There is a delicate balance here. You cannot cause the employees to panic. Work still has to get done. Business still has to happen. I would not want to be in their shoes: Leading a company with this deal hanging over everything.

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Post ID: @fyb+1iP92bLm

Bollocks.
You can only ‘calm the troops’ if you are able to answer their questions.

Principally, who stays, who goes, WFH policy, etc..

How the fu-k would our management team (ALL MANAGERS, using your vernacular ) know the answers “from day one”?
BC and vmw management are still working this stuff out, so calm the fu-k down and stop the rabble rousing.

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Post ID: @ydj+1iP92bLm

People can be bought, that is what change in control bribes are all about.

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