Thread regarding Citrix Systems Inc. layoffs

Citrix management has struggled since about 2015 to tell and deliver a growth story

People, you are looking at this with teary eyes. The reality is that Citrix management has struggled since about 2015 to tell and deliver a growth story. They made big moves and company repositioning without checking market viability (see Workspace, Sapho-what a waste, and the latest folly Wrike). Who really wanted these microapps? Whose kool aid did the ELT drink to move the whole company in that direction without an iota of evidence? Why pay $200M for a Sapho?

Here's a piee from the Citrix FAQ from back then:
https://www.citrix.com/content/dam/citrix/en_us/documents/news/citrix-sapho-faq.pdf

Citrix is the leader in secure, unified workspaces that give businesses and users access to all of their applications and data in one place. Citrix is acquiring Sapho’s leading micro-app platform to enhance the guided work capabilities within Citrix® Workspace, enabling people to work with even greater speed, intelligence and simplicity.

First, Citrix was no where near a leader and certainly not "the" leader in a unified Workspace. That has been Microsoft for a long-long-long time and many have attempted to dethrone the king and have died along the way. With that delusion came the rest of the moves.

Second, the core of Sapho was a series of projects done for a few large customers. There was no real product, no repeating revenue. So Citrix paid $200M for basically what could have been built for $5-10M. On top of that Citrix in its wisdom decided to move it to cloud and make microapps to check your PTO and made that sound like a big deal! Who checks their PTO every day and is that the most pressing enterprise productivity issue? Ge-z.

And once the ELT realized that their move was a dud, two heads rolled off JVR and PJ. And who was put in place- Joe Kim- of infamous Solarwinds fame, with junior league leadership under him.

Next came Wrike. Buy something for $2B, that Vista had already optimized after buying it for $700M (paying ~3X for 2 years worth of Vista work). And what rationale? Again, none. A complete non- sequitur. The ELT making its largest acquisition without a plan!

Why would anyone expect the company to survive two back-to-back amateur moves?

Vista, Elliot, and the rest of PE are necessary evils of the business world. They do the dirty work for shareholders who don't have a good way to telling management to get their act together. And they make fistfuls of money along the way.

So the question you should be asking is: Who opened the doors for Elliott in round one (2015) Elliott and Vista in round 2 (2020) to come in? The answer is blatantly obvious, without even requiring hindsight. Its Citrix leadership, starting with the ELT.

Finally, the same ELT is now flushed out. But not much is left to keep the place whole. Hence the reason for the two "divisions" that will be separately milked, carved and sold, along with the already separated Wrike.

Perfectly put, @uwn+1iFoPuPD. This deserved its own thread.

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Its hard to tell what Wrike will fetch. It still may be sold for > $2B if the last 2 years delivered ARR growth. That I would expect Vista to bake into their plans. SaaS multiples are running at a high of 50X ARR (Figma- Adobe), to 40X ARR for AlertMedia (recent Vista transaction). If say Wrike is discounted to 20-30X ARR, and the revenue climbed up to $200M+, that would make it a ~$6B transaction. If they can reach that range, that would leave the rest of Citrix at $10B, which is where the transaction should have been done in the first place, still leaving upside for Elliott and Vista.

Citrix ARR was around $3.1B per the Q2'22 10Q. The more relevant SaaS ARR was $1.4B, with Wrike and $1.2B without (meaning Wrike is ~$200M). At a lower SaaS multiple for Citrix of 10X, that still makes it $12B plus the rest of the enterprise so Elliott and Vista have a shot to break this up and still sell it off for 20B+ total after some serious internal dieting, cleanup and margin improvements.

Given that the net cash outlay for the PE's is 2X MOIC, which is slightly below average for PE but nothing to sneeze at if done in 2 years.

Timing here is everything as Citrix is like a week old Romaine lettuce head. The outer leaves are already showing some rot. Vista will need to separate the leaves and sell them off quickly before the whole thing becomes compost.

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Post ID: @cmi+1iL9fZqb

I wonder how much of a discount the next person that buys Wrike is going to get for it. Not a single chance we are going to get out what we paid for it, even if you ignore the costs from attempting to integrate the companies for that 6 months - 1 year time frame.

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Post ID: @ach+1iL9fZqb

You may want to add that in addition to JVR and PH leaving due to Wrike, AS (our former CFO) and DH (our former CEO) were also shown the exit. Additionally, there is an article in biz journal noting that a Wrike spinoff is being planned thereby confirming the dud of an acquisition that was:

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2022/09/12/wrike-may-be-sold-again-after-citrix-buyout-closes.html

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