At a good company, the more experienced employees are mentors that guide the new employees. They help young people grow competence and give them a chance to be proud of their work.
At GM the more experienced employees call you names and let you fail so they inevitably have to come to your rescue. To them, it proves their superiority. Meanwhile the new grad has their self confidence destroyed so making them look bad is even easier. Eventually, they get angry which is when you get the "if you don't like GM, find another job" stage. Once this happens you either get a new job, get laid off, or suffer. This is not a hypothetical situation, this is how things actually work at GM.
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Yes, this is my thinking exactly, @5afd+1gVs3CKH
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When I was at GM as a contract clay sculptor a couple of years ago, some of the more experienced sculptors weren't pleasant to be around despite me catching on rather quickly when it came to using the tarus mills, vehicle setups, and hand modeling. I was told during my interview that i would be mentored during the beginning stages of my career. I mostly ran into a bunch of egos, favoritism, and a lack of mentorship during my time there. I would ask questions and get ignored sometimes, or get condescending responses. There was one guy (although an experienced sculptor, he was eventually let go most likely because of his attitude) would literally holler out random advice and suggestions to me and other people at times in front of management to make it seem like he was super knowledgeable lol I was laid off after 6 months and now I've been at Ford Design as a clay modeler for just over a year now and the mentorship I've experienced at Ford is miles ahead of the mentorship I received while I was at GM. Maybe it was just the studio I was in, but I was highly disappointed with the way things went there. Looking at the comments, it seems like much hasn't changed there.
So you shouldn’t train people because they’ll leave because they’re not paid enough? I feel like this that comment should come with a check symbol that says “Certified GM employee.”
If you don't know what you're doing and need a mentor to train you, why are you here?
Why should the company waste resources teaching you the job just so you'll leave and go to another company for an extra dollar an hour?
I saw this in engineering.
Never saw this in my 45 years at GM (now retired), but maybe times have changed.
Managers encourage the experienced people to train the newbies, especially the new college hires, because their plan is for the cheap new college hires to replace the experienced people when the next round of layoffs come.
The smart experienced people see through this
Hmmm…its not like that everywhere at GM. Sounds like maybe you need to change departments. In our group we are encouraged to help the newbies and act as a team. Most folks treat each other with respect and if not they get a talking to by the EGM.
same here
I smell a setup