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Celanese Tired of Santoprene Already?

https://investors.celanese.com/websites/celanese/English/301020/news-detail.html?airportNewsID=61fdbc26-9cac-44f7-89bf-86efc684c9b8

Two and a half months and they have already figured out they were sold a bill of goods. The couple hundred poor people who got sold and thought they avoided the EM PIP debacle (and had to sign a ridiculous non-compete so they can’t bail), will find themselves looking up at all the talented and capable DuPont scientists and fall victim to workforce “efficiency” reductions.

Another example of how EM managers can be so effusive about how good this will be for all of those that were sold, only to have it completely fall apart in less than 3 months.

It’ll be fun to watch this one from a distance.

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Celanese greatly overpaid for the business but they had cash to burn at the time. Exxon Mobil did a fantastic job packaging the business and propping it up but the reality was they oversold the value and it wasn’t recognized as such by Celanese, or they were overly optimistic and too ready to believe the hype.
No normal companies give the kind of total compensation that the Exxon Santoprene employees (mostly) had so the higher the level the more likely a company like Celanese would find a way to cull these positions, deem them redundant or eliminate the jobs.
Make no mistake, Santoprene is a very good business and had many talented people in it but it was always going to be right sized or adjusted if acquired by a company like Celanese. It’s a bit sad but it’s just reality. I just hope Santoprene doesn’t die a slow death because it’s an iconic business and brand - or it least it had been in the past.

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I know this the old thread but some of this is turning out to be true. Celanese is getting rid of many Santoprene folks now that 12 months commitment is over (happening right now!). They are specifically targeting people who are CL (>=28), probably looking at their salaries.

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The transition has been bad.

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Post ID: @1zbv+1fnpiqqY

Like previous poster said a deal of this size was in the works for months. Bidding phases, due diligence, etc.

The non competes were changed to NDAs.

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Post ID: @ejp+1fnpiqqY

Usually when someone buys something like that, these efficiencies are planned well in advance. Santoprene knew what it had and decided to buy more with restructuring in mind. It’s not a oil and gas thing, this is how business works everywhere. If you didn’t see it coming, then learn about how the world works. Should XOM managers have tried to mention it indirectly (since they can’t legally say it)? Yes. But as a person in the business world, learn to look out for yourself and see the patterns of reality.

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