Thread regarding Imperial Oil Limited layoffs

Is this the end of ESC?

It is very sad to see a great organization like ESC get destroyed by Houston!

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The place is managed by a fat cost estimator

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Post ID: @1Ykii+1feLiwFz

Yes ESC is gone. Definitely a lot of double think in the communication about it. I would focus on integrating tightly with your respective site as long term that is likely where you will end up post TMTS shuffle. Best wishes to ESC

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Post ID: @nvhn+1feLiwFz

IOL has been Exxon-ized since 10~15 years ago. It was a boiling frog approach, one step at a time. From IT to Projects (EMCAPS...oh what does the EM stands for?) to now Applications / Tech Contacts / Systems.....anything technical, gone to KL. Sad part? Exxon has always been 20 years behind everyone else. Tech companies outsourced to India since the early 2000's, I believe we've all seen what's it like to call support these days. Attrition in 3rd world is wayyyy higher than a developed country, once you transfer the knowledge they will ask for a raise. No raise, c-ya! KLTC will be a constant revolving door of rookies that doesn't know jack. Too many mid management are lining up to get their ticket stamps, don't give a F about what will happen in 10 years. Any site personnel will tell you, they attend the KL meetings, but at the end, tell them to stay the F away.

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Post ID: @lhfo+1feLiwFz

@izhi+1feLiwFz

Who didn’t see that coming? Seriously, lying a-s expat management. They denied this was coming for years.

Also, why is my technical manager in Sarnia an expat? We couldn’t find any business team leads in Canada to promote to department heads? This company is a scam.

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Post ID: @lmlv+1feLiwFz

Latest TMTS announcements, reducing site headcount and flying KLTC engineers from Malaysia to Canada for turnaround support...insanity.

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Post ID: @izhi+1feLiwFz

I heard that 1 out of the two managers is now going back to the US. The other manager is in Sarnia. No more CDN group leads, everyone reports to Houston leads now.

Is there even a point for remaining CGY ppl to go back to office? Wont even have a manager there...

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Post ID: @ewcg+1feLiwFz

They’ve made it clear: there’s no ESC. There’s no IOL. BTC and KLTC is the future state. Engineering work is being ported oversees.

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Post ID: @6zzg+1feLiwFz

You are better off taking your technical expertise and work for a consulting engineering firm.
There you will focus on technical work without all the imperial politics and bul**t.
I am en experienced hire at Imperial and have worked with all of the O&G competitors. Imperial is the worst place where management sole purpose is to make this company inefficient and culturally backwards.

Just waiting to be walked out here. I’ll go back to consulting engineering. Way better.

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Post ID: @3lvq+1feLiwFz

@2qiz+1feLiwFz

Authenticating has never really been a thing at IOL or ESC, because the concept is foreign to the American management running the show. That's the truth.

Getting your P.Eng is basically meaningless here.

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Post ID: @3hfm+1feLiwFz

If ESC is gone, who is taking professional responsibility and authenticating engineered work from Houston, KL, or Bangalore? EMRE doesn’t exist in Canada.

Are the site engineers authenticating? Didn’t the organization also decimate site engineering numbers too while calling them as “ lacking competency”?

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Post ID: @2qiz+1feLiwFz

The smart ones understood this was the end at least a year ago, when the PIPs started and the first announcements came out.

You’ve had almost a year to prepare.

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Post ID: @1yph+1feLiwFz

@1ezv+1feLiwFz Looks to me that you are being setup for NSI and PIP.

And getting the mushroom treatment.

Good luck

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Post ID: @1urg+1feLiwFz

I don't feel like I belong anywhere now. Relocated to site as part of the new deployed-resource strategy at ESC. I have a desk at the site but nobody talks to me, I'm not one of their team members really, not invited to regular team meetings, don't report to anyone on site, etc... I have monthly virtual staff meetings with the Exxon EMRE group but it's clear I'm the red-headed ESC step-child. They talk about their bi-weekly fro-yo meet-ups at Orange Leaf in Spring.
There's no ESC commradery anymore. Now we will be merged with the Upstream where they all sit together in Calgary - and again will be ostracized since we're not there. They have forced ESC engineers to be independent consultants. I've never felt so isolated.

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Post ID: @1ezv+1feLiwFz

Imperial invests more money and hours training engineers in India and Malaysia now, than in its own company.

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Post ID: @1bax+1feLiwFz

Imperial senior management will receive their bonus for executing EM orders. They are all trying to impress their EM master.

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Post ID: @1eza+1feLiwFz

@bzk+1feLiwFz

Might as well work for CNOOC / Petro China at this point. Atleast they get production bonuses.

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Post ID: @1yiv+1feLiwFz

Yes that’s right they can’t even do funding large growth/expansion of production without US sign off.

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Post ID: @wkw+1feLiwFz

There’s a running joke in the Canadian oil and gas industry that Imperial is basically just an American company at this point, operated by foreigners.

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Post ID: @bzk+1feLiwFz

I voluntarily left ESC to go work for another energy company. Brought 10+ years of hard-earned design & technical experience to my new employer. Think AITs on steroids; they're loving it.

End of the day, all of this is IOL's loss. Let BTC & KLTC run your business.

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Post ID: @ugz+1feLiwFz

Yes, a great team of extremely knowledgeable people.

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