Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

"We are moving to a 6 month subscription model."

What happens if employees choose not to renew? I have concerns about licensing enforcement

"It's only the Cisco mRNA Essential license now. You can upgrade to Cisco mRNA Advantage with boosters. The Smart Licensing Passport is shipping next quarter."

We are moving to a 6 month subscription model.

It's only the Cisco mRNA Essential license now. You can upgrade to Cisco mRNA Advantage with boosters. The Smart Licensing Passport is shipping next quarter.

The mandate is not about making people safer, it's about forcing compliance. If the EO really wanted to slow the spread of the virus, vax would be a requirement for collecting a welfare check, or for releasing into the US people caught entering illegally. As it stands now, vax compliance is only required by those working or entering the US legally.

If people can't opt of out the Cisco mRNA license, I may as well save money and buy Huawei. They don't have a vaccine mandate.

I see some not happy with the lawyer comment. How are you going to deal with this if you’re not happy and company have many lawyers to deal with you? You can complain your way out of the mandate? Get a lawyer, share the info here… organize it like an adult…

The whole thing is likely a way to get rid of American staff, conservatives as well as the disabled and medically compromised (autoimmune disorders).

Doesn't matter if you are fully vaxxed. Doesn't matter if you agree with the mandate in general. Doesn't matter even if you somehow get an accommodation. You don't want to work here. These people are evil.

Get out as fast as you can. Because at some point, they will come for you as well.

"when Cisco said that if your doctors medical advice or recommendation wasn't to go get vaccinated that you should talk to theirs instead?"

Going along with this will ensure you will be fu---d.

I am trying to remember the date when Cisco said that if your doctors medical advice or recommendation wasn't to go get vaccinated that you should talk to theirs instead? There were many that said that they a have medical reason not to, wanted to give it more time, wait until more medical studies are completed, etc. Don't talk to your trusted physician you need to talk to theirs.

https://youtu.be/QabAtYBnqro
See comments..

CDC can't answer straight simple questions about themselves.
Not a good example.

Can't answer how many Working remotely?
Can't answer how many are vacinated ?

Corps are doing more than them? No questions asked...

Gees .... give unvax own state, give vax own state. Let folks move wherever they choose.
Simple answer folks.

U guys keep complaining.. I don’t see anyone initiate to getting a lawyer to help organize this. You don’t have a lot of time

"Since a poster has commented on the attempt to hide the issue, I will say again that I almost died from the first shot. Even though I submitted my medical info months ago that said I should NOT get a second shot I have NOT received an exemption.

So, they apparently think I should just go get the second shot and die or be impoverished."

First off I am so sorry you had that experience and others are being dismissive. I lost a friend after his second shot to a massive stroke. He was 41. You are doing the right thing by standing up and further Cisco will likely get sued, mandate or not for pushing undue harm to their employees. The reality is that other tech companies are not pressing so hard on their employees, so don't worry about how Cisco decides they are going to treat their employees. The most important thing is to take care of you.

Since a poster has commented on the attempt to hide the issue, I will say again that I almost died from the first shot. Even though I submitted my medical info months ago that said I should NOT get a second shot I have NOT received an exemption.

So, they apparently think I should just go get the second shot and die or be impoverished.

"The number of trolls went down for some time but after the mention of employee severe adverse reactions they started back up. "

I have no doubt at all that there are people who are paid to troll this forum. I'm counting from 3 to 6. Probably some schedule overlap.

"I think they likely got smacked in the face with cognitive dissonance. The ELT was caught off guard by people actually disagreeing with them. I don't know on what planet they thought this was going to be their normal cake walk that they have while trying to cram down their other narratives & ideology they push down on all of us constantly."

I agree with you. I actually meant in this forum. The number of trolls went down for some time but after the mention of employee severe adverse reactions they started back up. The forum sliding is to get people off topic, angry, and upset.

I'm neutral but I'm selling my Cisco stock and will likely short. No way does Cisco survive this mess in any decent condition.

"The trolls are trying to forum slide instead of building an inclusive future for all

It seems like a nerve was struck with employees reporting serious side effects to large groups"

I think they likely got smacked in the face with cognitive dissonance. The ELT was caught off guard by people actually disagreeing with them. I don't know on what planet they thought this was going to be their normal cake walk that they have while trying to cram down their other narratives & ideology they push down on all of us constantly.

"The trolls are trying to forum slide instead of building an inclusive future for all

It seems like a nerve was struck with employees reporting serious side effects to large groups"

I think they likely got smacked in the face with cognitive dissonance. The ELT was caught off guard by people actually disagreeing with them. I don't know on what planet they thought this was going to be their normal cake walk that they have while trying to cram down their other narratives & ideology they push down on all of us constantly.

The trolls are trying to forum slide instead of building an inclusive future for all

It seems like a nerve was struck with employees reporting serious side effects to large groups

"Good luck fighting the army of Cisco lawyers over this."

Good luck to Cisco and their lawyers when dealing with a large number of very motivated and very pi---d off people.

This changes everything. As of right now, the company is in violation of federal regulations. (with regards to remote workers not needing vaccination by OSHA).

Cisco's lawyers, who certainly make more than you do, have already said that policy is separate from the executive order that's requiring vaccinations.

Good luck fighting the army of Cisco lawyers over this.

"Medical places rarely schedule non-emergency procedures in less than 2 weeks."

Oh, that seems to apply to the very limited time that the company is giving people to get sign offs from doctors for medical exemptions. m

AZ, TX, and NC.

Come on down for being anti vax and stupid!

To those unaware: FDA approved "Comirnaty" is "legally distinct" from the EUA Pfizer BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine. Pfizer claims it's the same thing, so why is it "legally distinct?" Try finding Comirnaty in the U.S. Near impossible. The currently available Pfizer vaccine in the U.S. is still only Emergency Use Authorized!

"https://fortune.com/2021/11/04/remote-workers-osha-vaccine-mandate/"

This changes everything. As of right now, the company is in violation of federal regulations.

Any truth to this?

https://fortune.com/2021/11/04/remote-workers-osha-vaccine-mandate/

Any links to the recent check ins on this topic? I don't work for Cisco but do have a vested interest.

In the check-in people were practically screaming because Cisco isn't listening or responding to questions and concerns of most about taking away their bodily autonomy.

I looked up the directory profile of many of the people complaining about the loss of bodily autonomy. Where did the vast majority of them live/work? TX.

Yup, the state that is taking bodily autonomy away from women. Why aren't those same people up in arms about women's bodily autonomy? Oh, yeah, it because they're mostly all men complaining.

Hypocrites.

As lame as the Cisco ELT is. It's absolutely insane that the current presidential administration thinks this is a good idea for the country. I'm not anti-vax at all, and I've been vaccinated for a while, but the government forcing employers to do this to their workforce is unacceptable.

Where we were - is fighting it - just like we are now.

Where we're all you patriots when TFG spent 4 years issuing EOs and sh-----g all over the constitution?

Oh that's right you were busy cheering him on.

Karma is a bi--h, huh?

""RSUs. So, what's the deal. Do they steal the unvested grants when/if an employee is denied an accommodation and is terminated?"

That is correct"

Dang! Well, that's going to be another round of legal issues for Cisco. ELT is going to be so busy dealing with lawsuits that they won't be able to do their jobs. Oh wait, that might be a good thing.

"RSUs. So, what's the deal. Do they steal the unvested grants when/if an employee is denied an accommodation and is terminated?"

That is correct

RSUs. So, what's the deal. Do they steal the unvested grants when/if an employee is denied an accommodation and is terminated?

Future looks bright for Cisco after we dump:

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anti-innovation corrupt politician execs and management

Cisco - Let's build back better

The J&J vaccine was rushed to market, has had thousands upon thousands of vaccine injuries and deaths, and has no long term studies.

Everyone who takes it is doing so at their own risk - it hasn't been effectively tested. And the few tests it has had - are mostly J&J funded. Where are the pregnancy studies? Where are the 5-10 year studies? Where are the studies on fertility effects?

Keep on attacking the people on here and calling them d-mb while not discussing their concerns or arguments.

If you notice, the views counter is starting to climb faster.

For those of you concerned about new mRNA technology, fortunately J&J Janssen vaccine is based on old fashioned deactivated virus technology. Awesome!

Of course, this is only authorized for ages 18 and older. So only children are technically being forced into lab rat status.

Point goes to corrupt fascists and garden variety id--ts and mo--ns.

Please don't feed the troll.

Future looks bright for Cisco after we dump all these anti-vax id--ts! If they can’t use critical thinking on the vax, they must not be smart in their job either. Will be good to lose the dead weight hicks from flyover states.