List your years of experience at Cisco with your current salary and if you left the company how much more you make.
I'll go first....
I was a hardware engineer at Cisco based out of the RTP office. I had nine years of experience with a grade 9 base salary of 140k. I'm down to my final two weeks at Cisco as last week I accepted a hardware engineer position at Apple with a starting base of 210. This is based out of the new Apple hq coming to RTP. Work from home until then.
Cisco justified NOT paying market value for top 10% workforce bc of the stock options over 20 years ago.
then stock options quietly became only for the elite grades but no change in salary strategy.
AND there is no longer the goal of top 10% workforce. frankly majority of new hires out of college i came across were unable to work a full day or without high levels of spoon feeding. they also screamed they deserved more $ for sucking their thumb. HR did not care.
So glad i left the sinking ship.
I got a $15K bump in salary PLUS an annual bonus, and went from a people leader with ton of people reporting to me to an individual contributor role.
Was at a small firm acquired by Cisco; once acquired, stuck at 140k; no raises in 4 years. Left for 153k almost a year ago, looking at another possible move for 180k.
"G10 with 15 exp , making 146, and stuck in the rut" I very highly doubt that. If you are then you are a target as you would be at the top or even above MRR3 in most areas for a 10. If you have been stuck there a while you may want to try to figure out what is keeping you from being promoted.
"I'm also a G9 in RTP with a base of 144k. A little more than the poster. I didn't do anything special to get it just a combination of the above as I built experience" Nope. 01B MRR in RTP is not even remotely near a 144k base poser.
don't know my grade. I joined recently at $130K
"Left for AWS, now making $195 base in Seattle."
Amazon-wide salary cap for Seattle is 160k. Just google "Amazon salary cap seattle"
Why post such BS here?
Salaries are higher in the Bay Area because of the high cost of living. This is a well known fact at Cisco.
There is a number of regions defined in the US with different salary scales. The Bay Area is one, as is parts around NYC. There is ever a list of counties where it changes.
And all grades are not the same. A lawyer will be paid much differently to a business ops manager, or a sales SE compared to a TME or senior PM, even though all are grade 12.
Cisco pays 15-20% less than the market for 50-60% of employees.
Cisco used to pride itself on paying in the top 75th percentile back in the early/mid 2000's when I first joined.
Look what a difference that change in policy has caused.
“ Just a friendly warning. Posting two or more indirect identifiers…”
HR only works two hours a day, I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.
Grade 10 San Jose avg base $145K
Grade 11 San Jose avg base $ 170K
Cisco pays 15-20% less than the market for 50-60% of employees.
There are some long timers and with good skills paid above market.
I was a grade 8 server virtualization tac engineer making 92k. Left last year for vmware at 118k. Rtp
... BTW, if you give out location and tenure you might just consider yourself a RIF candidate, even at the new company.
You can't RIF someone who's already been LR'd, so it doesn't matter if I gave out location and tenure. :-)
And how is a new company going to know that I gave out that info on some Cisco forum? Do you honestly think some random new company has time to monitor Cisco's forum and compare posts against their current employees who might have had Cisco on their resume in the hopes of catching them posting something negative about Cisco? Get real.
G10 with 6 yrs at Cisco, base $148, location not in California. Left for AWS, now making $195 base in Seattle. Not bad for a single dude with no kids that I know of. At AWS I have to work, Cisco was a fun place where I put in only 2 hrs/day and be done, rest of the time was spent on politics and listening to colleagues complain endlessly.
The ranges here seem too wild to be accurate, even when adjusted for location. BTW, if you give out location and tenure you might just consider yourself a RIF candidate, even at the new company.
Salaries are higher in the Bay Area because of the high cost of living. This is a well known fact at Cisco.
G10 with 15 exp , making 146, and stuck in the rut
While I don't know the OP I'm not going to doubt their numbers. Here's why:
There's a lot more to salary than your grade level. How many times you got promoted, how many raises did you get and what were the budgets like determine how much of a increase you get
Someone who just stays on the same team and gets promoted to a G9 will always earn less than people who apply and get new internal jobs. When promoted there's a max increase you can get. When accepting a new internal job you can negotiate salary more freely
Anyone that goes from the corporate pay plan to the sales plan will immediately get around a 20% raise right there due to the sales plan paying more
When you start at Cisco also determines your pay. I started in 2012 at 75k base. The very next year starting pay for the exact same job was 62.5k
I'm also a G9 in RTP with a base of 144k. A little more than the poster. I didn't do anything special to get it just a combination of the above as I built experience
Grade 9 with a base on 140k? You were way past your midpoint and a prime LR target. $210k at Apple? I don't buy it....especially in RTP. I was gr11 and making 155k, and got nailed in a LR for being past my midpoint (and older...that was the biggest kicker).
I'll contribute to this post...
I was a software engineer based out of RTP. Had 10 years of experience and was making 160k base as a G10. I was stuck at a G8 for 4 years.
Left this past June for Google in Durham. Joined the Google maps team as a software engineer. Base is now 190k with stock options total package 240k a year.
Just a friendly warning. Posting two or more indirect identifiers together (like exact position+location, or years served+location) is like you signed a post. So if you want to stay anonymous, be more vague than that (i.e. talk in ranges/areas not in numbers/locations).
Does Cisco really pay devs that low?! No wonder roadmap always slips and code is full of bugs.
11 yrs exp, currently G10 @ CSCO RTP, base 120k.
Going rate for my skill set seems to be in the 170-230k range but I stay because the benefits are good and they treat us well, at least in my department.
$210k, eh?
Must be a peach of a hand.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salaries/Apple-Hardware-Engineer-Salary
Apple Hardware Engineer Salary
As of Aug 22, 2021, the average annual pay for an Apple Hardware Engineer in the United States is $80,230 a year.
I was LR'd from Cisco in '16 with 5 yrs as a contractor and 5 yrs as an employee as a grade 8 software engineer II with a base salary of 95K. I had previously been a grade 9 software engineer with a base salary of $93K before I switched teams.
The new team didn't have grade 9's, so I had to drop a grade and the manager/director got me the pay bump to switch. I'm pretty sure the higher salary put a target on my back for the '16 LR because (supposedly) I was above the median pay for a grade 8 software engineer.
Even now, I betting if I were to join a team I know people on as a grade 8 again, I would not be getting $110K or higher. I'm currently making $135K at a different company, but I don't get annual bonuses.
If Apple is really paying $200K, they're going to end up stealing any Cisco employees worth having in a heartbeat and Cisco will be stuck with dead weight. I'm not looking forward to that.
You sound too du.mb to be an engineer, definitely not Cisco material....nor Apple for that matter.