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My new manager cancelled my pto

My manager started two days ago and already cancelled a vacation In oct that was approved from a previous manager. She also. Cancelled other pto days and put them back in for more hours. My question is, are they allowed to do this !?

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File a complaint with the state labor board.

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Post ID: @7sfx+1cqwVQJK

Red Badge here

I put out a Calendar each season to my team and it goes around to each of my associates by seniority I have them put on the calendar their planned vacations and I know what my floor/staffing will look like that week. It also gives me the opportunity in advance to ask my part timers if they can flex up or work more the week there is a vacation on the books.

Everyone deserves vacation hours and PTO....just as life events and the unexpected can happen some save a few days or a week “Just in case”

No manager should deny your PTO or plans. That is your time and if it doesn’t jive then it’s MY job to make it work and figure things out as the manager.

I work for my people plain and simple, without all of you where would the company be? And now with all the craziness and short staff and on top of nobody wanting to work, the last thing managers need to be doing is upsetting those that show up and work by cancelling or denying their PTO

I am sorry you are going through this

We have a lot of new red badges out there and they do not know how to manage or treat people. It’s a shame

And If the manager is doing what they are being “told” to do by their store manager shame on them for not having the backbone to be the voice for what is right for their associates. We live in a feedback culture and must be comfortable to give it.

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Post ID: @5aso+1cqwVQJK

That’s ridiculous no way the new Manager should have cancelled it. She’s new to the store and should be accommodating. Talk about coming in and not working with your associates ge-z. I would do everything I could to keep the week off contact HR or whoever you have to especially if you have travel plans. Very expensive to cancel last minute. Short staff or not this shouldn’t have happened.

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Post ID: @3ojw+1cqwVQJK

I had that experience before, but told the manager and store manager they will have to reimburse me for the non-refundable plane tickets of my family of four. They went to HR to consult and in the end I went on my scheduled PTO, but, that left a bad taste in the manager's mouth.

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Post ID: @1yyl+1cqwVQJK

When I first started in retail (predecessor company to Macy's) the sick pay policy was pretty weak and I would often go to work sick. So sick that I could barely stop coughing. Eventually, I decided that I needed to save my vacation time in case I got deathly sick so after many years I had 200+ hours of vacation time and I needed to use it or lose it. Most of the managers that I dealt with had started on the floor and understood the need for vacation. Sometimes they would complain, but they were generally pretty accommodating. By staying healthy, I had over 100+ attendance points before they did away with that system. A full timer definitely needs to take vacation to stay healthy. There is a lot of standing, walking, lifting, stress, and strange hours in retail. All of these things can make you sick. I would generally try and schedule my vacations during low volume times and/or after inventory. This was pre-COVID.

Today, the company is "re-imagining" itself and I would not be surprised if some managers are in "combat mode" or "all hands on deck". I would guess that many Macy's are running with at least 25% fewer hours than before, lots of new employees, and every worker is critical to operations. This may partly explain your manager's behavior.

Is your manager new to Macy's?

I would also check the state legal requirements as they can vary.

Did your previous manager approve all vacation time leaving your new manager with a really complicated scheduling problem?

Another (darker)thought is that the new manager wants to make you mad so that it will reflect in your performance. Then they can use that as a reason to fire you. They can then hire 2 lower cost employees to take your place(w/o benefits). If this happens before October, they can hire and train 2 seasonal workers for the Christmas season.
Before you do anything, carefully assess the situation. Be situational aware!

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Post ID: @1vvu+1cqwVQJK

Thats awful. Put the PTO back in and then have a conversation that if you aren't allowed to take it when you had it originally scheduled you will open a complaint with SIS. Also remind her that you will take your owed time and by taking it in OCT you are getting it out of the way whereas everyone else will be taking it in January to the point there's no one hardly working.

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Post ID: @1bvj+1cqwVQJK

HR basically said they can do whatever they want.

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Post ID: @1khd+1cqwVQJK

Oh he-l no, if my pto got cancel after it’s been approved I’ll contact HR.

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Post ID: @cus+1cqwVQJK

No call hr or store managers. It was already set before she was there. You are also entitled to your vacation if they say anything to you just say you contact local labor agencies

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