Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

We just have to wait and see what happens.

Abbots order is legal and law abiding.

Brandon didn’t make a rule or law or order. He asked for OSHA to, he is trying to force others to do his bidding, this is why very few companies acted on it except for the most liberal of liberal companies.

Correct, "Nothing will overturn Abbott’s executive order", with the exception of a corrupt politician trying to overthrow the constitution, as evident below. Thanks for clearing that up.

@Bkuz- Perhaps if you don't know anything about Constitutional law, you should refrain from talking about jurisdictional issues. But just so you know, the Supremacy Clause establishes that the federal constitution, and federal law generally, take precedence over state laws, and even state constitutions. To put it in words you might understand, Biden's rules trump Abbott's rules.

@Ahgf, I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make, except maybe quoting something about the US Constitution. Not sure if it applies outright in this case. Nothing will overturn Abbott’s executive order while he remains the Governor of Texas, except for challenging the constitutionality of the vaccine mandate on a Federal level. For that to happen, it will have to be settled at the US Supreme Court. Maybe that’s exactly the intent of Abbott’s executive order. I’m fine with the order as long as I live in Texas. I’m not in favor of the government forcing the Vaxx on me. I welcome Biden and this leftist band of Socialists to try. Take it to the SCOTUS and see how it ends. The constituents of all 50 States will get to chose what they think is best for their health.

Does that mean they can force people to stick and jab injectables up everyone's sphincter? If so, I'm out. Just sayin'.......

@Azkp - The supremacy clause would like a word.
"This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."

: @wyhk
Same reasons why you post, you troll here, and you allow all of this drivel to live rent free in your head!

@wnsg:
What you’re fooling your tribe into believing is “honor” is really just self serving anarchy.

What exactly is a "Russian bot" and what would the Russian programmers want with creating an entity the sole result of is to live in the minds of certain pathetic naive Americans 24-7 and have no other effect but to drive them crazy and over the edge to the point of constantly posting stupidity like they're being attacked by them?

@wnwq, By posting what you did, you’re being a liar. By definition you are 100% dishonorable. It’s pathetic that you can’t understand this, although you think it's hilarious, the true mark of a dishonorable liar.

You’re not standing up to authoritarianism, guy. You’re just being a sheep that listens to his tribe because it makes him feel tough.

Translation: in my version of the honor system I do what I want to do. Also, I consume far too much right wing (ie american ta----n) media.

That right, @wsjg. The Honor system entails doing the right thing, not necessarily ’doing what they say’. By standing up to authoritarianism, one does the honorable thing. You must do what in your best conscience is correct. So, it appears to me that it’s you who does not understand or appreciate honor, ethics, and moral integrity. Stand up for what you believe in. I refuse to be forced by anyone to take an unproven vaccine, so there’s no shame or loss of honor in me having to resort to carrying a fake vaxx card, in the event my livelihood or civil liberties are threatened. To not fight back is dishonorable.

This place is so f'ed up with Russian troll bots it's unbelievable.

@wsjg, the honor system totally works except for people like you with no honor, ethics, or moral integrity.

Honor system totally works

Literally next breath: I have a fake vaxx card and I’m banking on them not verifying it … due to the honor system 🤷🏼‍♂️

@vwed, Touched a nerve? Someone's got a guilty conscience! Go ahead and explain your incoherent drivel, mr. FOFH, since you have mastered FOFH and should be prepared to "back up your point" as you say. You perfectly understood @vjmy's post, hence the guilt trip, lol.

@vjmy, you’re not making a coherent point. The WFH and Honor system behind a vaccine sign-off sheet don’t have any correlation with one another. Do you not realize this or do you like to talk without first thinking things through? Do remember that when you openly opine, be prepared to back up your point, else you’re made out to be a fool. I’m sure you’ve heard the old expression….

@vjmy+1cKsxlj5
Hey if The Liar shoes fit….

@vfwf, Yes, particularly brought to light with the supposed "WFH" that was temporarily allowed. That should be called FOFH. as in "F-k-Off from Home", a much more appropriate abbreviation. In any case, everyone got away with it, as they will the ridiculous and absurd vaccine mandates "sigh-off" or form, whatever.

Liars always take advantage of honor systems. No different here!

Jesus Christ. @vuxn. Are you the same author who wrote ‘War and Peace’? Long reads are a turnoff. Besides this, you lie. Chevron has not yet mandated anything, much less requested any proof of vaccination.

@vuxn, Cool Story, Bro. Like you, I'd like to know if that ever actually happens. Until then, the honor system seems to be working just fine here and at every other Business Unit that I know of and hear from. Around here in our area, Covid rates are dropping off and many restrictions are being lifted.

@vrbo:

Doubt we’ll be seeing anymore uninformed comments from you, eh love?

Yah we know you expect your employer to extend the honor system to you but you feel no obligation to be honorable in return.

I was fired because I refuse to be vaccinated for COVID-19. Can I sue?

I suppose you could say they “warned me.” I’d gotten the “You need to show proof of vaccination by September 30th, or we’ll consider that you voluntarily resigned” emails, but I couldn’t believe they’d fire all of us. There’s a lot of us who work here who don’t want to inject this stuff into our bloodstreams. I thought our managers would see reason and cave.

I got a notice Thursday evening stating that unless I submitted proof of vaccination, I would receive my final direct deposit on Friday. Is this legal? Don’t I have employee rights? Can I sue?

Answer:

As a private individual, you have the right to choose whether to get vaccinated. Your employer has the right to require all employees, other than those with legally valid exemptions, be vaccinated.

“These employer mandates are analogous with the employment at will doctrine that Alaska and many other states observe,” notes attorney Charles Krugel. “Valid exemptions relate to medically advised for religion-based reasons for avoiding vaccination. An employer may require medical documentation or proof of a sincerely held believe before granting the exemption.” Further, states Krugel, “Employers need to engage in an interactive discussion with an employee to determine an exemption’s validity. Employers can’t simply make a blanket statement that one medical reason or religious belief is more valid than another without this interactive discussion.”

Employers in many states have fired employees who’ve defied their employer’s vaccination mandates. On Sept. 28, United Airlines, noting that 96 percent of their employees have been vaccinated, announced it would fire 593 unvaccinated employees. Of the remaining 4%, 3% are seeking an exemption, which might result in their being placed on leave without pay. Six employees who are seeking accommodations have sued United, arguing that being placed on an indefinite unpaid leave of absence means their employment has effectively been terminated. These six will remain employed until Oct. 8. Norvant Health, noting that over 99% of the 35,000 employees have been vaccinated, fired 175 unvaccinated employees and suspended another 375, giving them five days to get at least one shot. CNN, which had allowed employees to return to the office if vaccinated, fired three employees in September when it learned they hadn’t gotten vaccinated.

Some employers have offered employees the opportunity to work remotely or undergo weekly testing. Some of these employers intend to conduct weekly onsite COVID tests; others will require employees to be responsible for their own testing. Some employers, such as Delta Air Lines, require unvaccinated employees to pay $200 more monthly for their company health plan. Other employers restrict office space and company gyms to vaccinated employees only. MGM Resorts International won’t pay unvaccinated employees for time off to quarantine if they test positive for COVID.

You ask if this is legal. Employers have the right to set the terms and conditions for employment, unless they intentionally or unintentionally discriminate, violate employee rights or public policy. Further, federal and many state and local laws support your employer’s decision. The federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has said U.S. employers can require all employees entering a workplace to be vaccinated if these employers provide accommodations for those remaining unvaccinated due to disability or sincerely held religious beliefs. Employers can fire employees who don’t comply with an employer’s policies, including the workplace safety protocols.

You asked if you can sue. Any fired employee can sue, but your lawsuit will likely fail. More than 100 Houston Methodist employees sued challenging their employer’s vaccination mandate. A U.S. District judge dismissed the lawsuit, ruling that the employee plaintiffs could choose to refuse vaccination and work elsewhere.

Finally, although you expected your employer to cave to your anti-vaccination decision, your employer has mandated vaccination to maintain a reasonably safe work environment, minimize their business risks and manage their legal liability. You now have to answer the question — do you want to keep your job if it means getting vaccinated or do you need to find an employer more accepting of unvaccinated workers?

The honor system still has a place at Chevron. We are a professional company that hires professionals. Signing off on a form is nothing new and has always been sufficient for our business. Chevron understands this issue very well and also respects the privacy of its employees. So, if you think we’ll be asked to show proof of vaccination, I believe it’s you who is wrong. Watch and see.

“ The company may feel compelled to ask their employees if they’re vaccinated, but they won’t go so far as to require proof. They will only ask the employee to fill out and sign a form.”

Incorrect.

@vxwy— Actually, only one person has asked me if I got the jab. Everyone else realizes and respects it’s my own business whether I did or didn’t, so they don’t ask.
@veyo— It’s obvious to me that you’re a sad and bitter person with no real friends and not much of a caring family. The company may feel compelled to ask their employees if they’re vaccinated, but they won’t go so far as to require proof. They will only ask the employee to fill out and sign a form. Watch and see.

You will be fired for your “convincing” fake vaccination card. Then you will cry like a b!tch and your family will hate you even more than they do now.

@ujps+1:
Does anyone ever ask?

People can profess the vaccines are the best thing since sliced bread and support their point of view with a multitude of articles and scientific tests. The government and woke executives at the helms of corporations can try everything in their power to coerce the public or force their employees to get vaccinated. You can make your best case until you’re blue in the face. All I’m saying is it’s a waste of time. I’ve already decided it’s not for me. I won’t be getting the jab and I won’t be marginalized, fired from my job or prevented from boarding a flight. I already circumvented everything by acquiring a fake, yet convincing fake vaxx card. Everyone who asks me if I’m vaccinated, all get the ‘Yes’ answer.

Went to every link in that Lew Rockwell list of “ facts”. He uses his own articles for 4 or 5 of the links as his proof of facts, and a couple of the links are for writings from 2020. The remaining links point to issues already known such as the efficacy of the vax might wear off after 7 months. Hence, the booster recommendation. We also already know and accept that the vaccine may not be safe for people with diseases.

What else should we consider?

@uits, So not wanting to implore bl---s, who are a lot more likely to be apprehensive about the vaccine, and have the lowest vaccination percentages by ethnic group, to become vaccinated and exposing the truths about the dangers of the vaccine, simple facts that you do not like and disagree with the false narrative that you feel should be pushed, is racist?
Uhh, No.

@utmk+1cKsxlj5:
One must first consider that Lee Rockwell is a self professed anarchist and thus makes it difficult to take his writings seriously. He’s also a racist.

So, no.

Frankly, I dont care that 700,000 people have died from COVID. Most are democrat.

International Business Machines Corp. and American Airlines have put their unvaccinated employees on alert, with IBM threatening that workers who aren't fully vaccinated by Dec. 8 will be placed on unpaid suspension and American warning that those who don't have their COVID-19 jabs by Nov. 24 will face the ax.

American Airlines explained they are issuing the requirement due to President Joe Biden's order mandating government contractors to have fully vaxxed workforces by Dec. 8, and IBM says the president's decree influenced their decision, too.

God bless President Joe Biden, and God bless these United States of America! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸🇺🇸

James Okeefe is that guy who fakes “documentaries” and gets prosecuted for breaking laws, ie criminal, right?

Did he send you that article by forgetting to hang up after calling you and leaving you a voicemail minutes long detailing his scam?

You are low intelligence