I have never worked for another company besides Chevron but looking at Exxonmobil... i think we are much better off. I am just curious if anyone would consider leaving for Exxon?
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XOM folks are a bunch of boomers with their noses up in the air
Going from CVX to XOM would be nearly impossible. It is an upstream battle, so to speak. You would be better of moving to a smaller company where you might get some respect, having been a Chevroid. Think Devon, Marathon, Hilcorp, Conoco, etc.
He-l NO! I worked for Mobil pre-merger as young (but keen) project engineer, it was a horrible working atmosphere. Most managers wouldn't even say good morning to you. No team spirit, little interdepartmental co-operation. Everybody seemed to be on guard watching their backs. Post merger things may have improved but I wouldn't want to find out.
Chevron may have its faults but all in all I have found it to be a good company to work for and so have no intent of leaving. Management may have a a different view, who knows..
Trying to join Exxon from Chevron is not a good idea. They think of you people as plebeians.
an old exxon hand.
XOM holds people accountable. If you sc--w up or don’t perform well, you are out. Simple as that. They are running a business, not a charity.
XOM is a ruthless corporation. They will bring you in and suck all the technical knowledge out of you and then discard you at the first opportunity. There are a lot of people in the oil business with XOM on their resume.
Exxon's managers are promoted based on technical as well as managerial skills. Most can run circles around their people as they have more experience and maintain their technical prowess. This is the main difference to Chevron, aside from the salary and benefits differences mentioned.
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My experience is that Chevron is marginally more process driven. There is lots of opportunity to be creative there, no different in my view than Chevron.
Yes. I am now retired. Spent 15 years in each company. They are different around the edges. I preferred Exxon's PMP system much better than Chevron's although there seems to be a lot of angst about some recent changes there. I liked my time there and the fact that someone like MP in Chevron, currently in ,GOM would never make an AD Manager position in Exxon!!!
I have have worked for other Operators besides Chevron. I would definitely work for Exxon if they judge me on the quality of my work rather than the color of my skin (and if I get a friends and family vote). I’m not afraid of hard work. I could do my typical chevron work week on a Monday and Tuesday.
Unless my career was specifically tied to the oil patch (i.e., petrotechs), I think I would be looking more to a stable industry, like medicine, rather than oil, which is increasingly looking like a sunset industry.
There most recent earnings were about 50 percent higher than Chevron so not a bad upgrade in terms of corporate strength. They pay a lot better as well.
Same sh!t, different pile. Because at least they use proper grammar and capitalization on their website :)
No! Is there anyone who would move to Shell?
"...Exxon only hires the best..." that was true a decade or more ago, when oil and gas were the only game in town (before the distractions of D&I, green, Agile, etc.) and people naturally gravitated to the biggest company. There was a time when Exxon, Shell, and BP excelled at finding and producing (conventional) oil and gas. All three failed dismally to adjust to the changing environment after 2015 (take a look at their UCR or deepwater activity since that time). Exxon has excelled at finding oil in Guyana (which Chevron Exploration literally walked away from, as "too risky"), but now has a green cancer on their Board which they will never recover from. Exxon's only path is downhill, expect those hyperinflated Woodlands/Spring home values to start slipping.
“Exxon … only hire the best of the best”. That is what Exxon likes to tell all its newbies, and many buy that nonsense (at first anyway). In fact Exxon only hires those that are happy to ware the implant to mirage with the collective. Don’t question, don’t think out of the box, and most importantly obey the dear leader!
@sjn if you think CVX stock performance is bad the last five years, take a look at XOM's.
No f'ing way. I would start robbing 7-11's before working for them.
Not a chance. Exxon is like very military, they layoff their "3"s routinely, forced relocations and if you aren't quoted a career path on Day 1, you don't have one. If the higher pay trumps all that, then go for it.
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FYI
XOM employee manual is very simple. Two lines only.
1) Your supervisor is always correct.
2) If you think your supervisor is wrong, refer to rule #1.
Also, no Fridays off.
XOM indoctrinates it’s employees that they’re the best and that they’re treated the best. Unless you’re a HiPo, that’s not so.
Take a look at the XOM layoff board.
No. Very top down military style organization. Very harsh performance evaluation process with forced retrenchment build in requires focus on brown-nosing leadership chain above and deep silos to protect turf from adjacent “camps”. The old Chevron model was more enjoyable to me because it allowed room for some creativity (not sure about our new model), but if you like narrow chain of command then you might do well in Exxon.
Exxon pay is 10-20% higher than Chevron. They only hire the best of the best. You need perfect grades, for example. They also hold people accountable. If you sc--w up, you are out the door.
No
No, if you want to leave Chevron, you better join a company with much better pay, as major process and structural organization issues are common among most oil companies, so you will not get a better boss or better peers to work with, if lucky you might get a better career path (with smaller company) and better pay (with the risk of losing it due to lay off that happens more often with smaller companies).
Would love to work at an organization that has processes and procedures and no excuses. I should have left years ago, instead of putting up with the excuses and rationalization of mistakes that is CVX! Gorgon costing billions over run, stock price that has been nothing but losing money past 2 years. Interesting how everyone says, the dividend is great. However last 3 months stock has gone from $111 to $98 and last 2 years stock has gone from $126 to $98, last 5 years from $101 to $98. Any company worth anything has at least increased their stock holder value in some of these period of times.
If you leave chevron for Exxon you are in fir a rude awakening. Exxon is straight up follow a book. So process driven it’s crazy it will drive you to jump off the top of one of there building unfortunately they are not that tall and you will only get hurt.