Can you believe the nerve of the [expletive here] management in Xerox? They are offering a $1,500 bonus if you hoodwink some poor slob to bust rocks on the chain gang of despair. How about I call the hundreds of people you sent to the unemployment line in Webster, do I get the bonus if they get rehired?
I guess they're having a tough time filling positions in North Carolina. Did they really think smart people were going to pick a company that has worst benefits than what you can get working in a McDonald's drive through window?
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@3pgu I don't know why the downvotes. You are absolutely correct. Experience, background, and aptitudes matter. Assuming you can just hire anyone from within no matter their job is completely nonsensical.
"It's not nuclear physics, it's business. Spreadsheets and PowerPoint work the same in Parts as they do in Service or Billing. "
Wow, if you think everybody at Xerox works in excel and PP all day, you have a very narrow view of the business. While I'm sure there are a lot of people that do, and I would agree that in general you could move an excel monkey from parts to service to billing, that's only one part of Xerox.
Service engineers go out and service the machine. The know how one or more families of machines work, have extensive knowledge of the mechanical systems and software systems.
Human resources figure out the best way to give employees the minimal benefits without them quitting. This is mostly outsourced these days I believe, but we still have a few on staff to work with senior management to continue making the squeeze.
Sales have a very different skill set than an excel junkie, they work directly with customers no different than a used car salesman, but not as sleazy. They probably do use excel a lot, but have other skills as well.
Internal testers have much of the same knowledge of service engineers, and also know proper test procedures. There is an entire engineering science to testing.
Mechanical engineers work on the mechanics of the machine, the paper path, the image path, doors, covers, and much much more.
Chemical engineers work on what sort of toners are applicable to each product, image permanence, substrates, etc. We probably done have as many of these folks as we did in the past though.
Software engineers write the control systems, drivers, user interfaces, web apps, etc ... and are versed in many different languages and operating systems.
System engineers figure out what we are going to build. They define requirements, work with customers to figure out what they need now and in the future, they likely perform studies with customers to see the best way to get there.
All of these jobs, and more, have skills that are not transferable. You can't take a tester and tell them to write code without sending them back to school. You can't take a chemical engineer and put them into sales. You can't take a software engineer and tell them to go write business plans.
Re: all the people with knowledge of systems, processes and overall business and products who either left on their own or got laid off - why in the world would company policy now be that ex employees can't be rehired, even as contracts? I truly don't understand the logic. I wonder what new employees think of that belittling of prior employees.
"Why hard to believe? Skills from one division to another are not interchangeable."
It's not nuclear physics, it's business. Spreadsheets and PowerPoint work the same in Parts as they do in Service or Billing. If you're hiring off the street you'll have to train the new person too. Why not get someone who also has intimate knowledge about how the rest of the company works?
"Hard to believe but I saw people being laid-off in one division while another division was hiring.Unfortunately HR stood by and let this happen."
Why hard to believe? Skills from one division to another are not interchangeable.
Hard to believe but I saw people being laid-off in one division while another division was hiring.Unfortunately HR stood by and let this happen.
You cannot imagine the amount of expertise that has left this company in the last 3 years. Either by IRIF or on their own.
We have critical processes and systems that NO ONE knows how they work. IT struggles to fix issues because their "fix" ends up breaking something else because they have no experience with how the complete system is supposed to function. Business teams can't make things work because an SME that owned a critical process is no longer here, and since anyone who is left is doing 3 jobs they don't have the time to learn the process on their own, so it just doesn't get done.
And it's the customer that eventually suffers, because with systems and processes not working they are the ones that end up feeling the impact, so they leave or don't pay the invoices.
And the fine print is ridiculous. You only get $750 after the new hire has been at Xerox for 6 mos and the other $750 if they are there (and you) after a year. The puny incentives are even laced with ways to avoid payment, like the 401k match. I wouldn't convince my worst enemy to work here.
We are now losing experts at an alarming rate.
It’s not a joke. A corporate email went out yesterday asking current employees to recruit and if successful will get paid.
DELETE.
Not a way to make friends and (positively) influence people.
Smells like they're blowing smoke
Big surprise
the bonus seemed bizarre with all of the layoffs
It's all a facade. They need to look good to the public. According to my last department they are still laying off and people are not leaving but running. They are all doing the job of 3 people so HOW are they even hiring? And shouldn't they be rehiring people back??? They make no sense. Their firing and hiring strategy is a complete mess. I know of a VP in my department who accepted the job and left that same week. Only blind people would join a sinking ship.
So many new positions advertised on their company linkedin page! This must be a new and dynamic xerox poised for growth!
I wouldn't wish my Xerox job upon my worst enemy! Only an extraordinarily evil person would sell a friend down this road of misery. I'm thinking an evil on the scale of Bernie Madoff, Charles Mansion or Judas.
Obviously this post is fake. Xerox hiring??? Haha good one.
I was unaware Xerox is hiring. Several people left my team and no one was hired to fill those positions, the work is shifted to remaining employees.
What organization is doing that?