Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

Doozie of a townhall

First Mike mishears the inflation question thinking people are worried about how the company is managing procurement vs. employees actively getting poorer after terrible CIP and salary adjustments compounded by rising CPI. And then he goes full old-man-yells-at-cloud talking about how lower oil demand is media bias. Mike - RDS is predicting decreasing oil demand, not CNBC.

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"TLDR on that last post, yawn." was spot on. My thoughts exactly. YAWN.....

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Post ID: @1lfb+1aVhXTFc

TLDR on that last post, yawn.

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Post ID: @1roo+1aVhXTFc

Ph-k MW “Employees are feeling burned over broken work-from-home promises and corporate culture ‘BS’ as employers try to bring them back to the office.

As vaccinations and relaxed health guidelines make returning to the office a reality for more companies, there seems to be a disconnect between managers and their workers over remote work.

A good example of this is a recent op-ed written by the CEO of a Washington, D.C., magazine that suggested workers could lose benefits like health care if they insist on continuing to work remotely as the COVID-19 pandemic recedes. The staff reacted by refusing to publish for a day.

While the CEO later apologized, she isn’t alone in appearing to bungle the transition back to the office after over a year in which tens of millions of employees were forced to work from home. A recent survey of full-time corporate or government employees found that two-thirds say their employers either have not communicated a post-pandemic office strategy or have only vaguely done so.

As workforce scholars, we are interested in teasing out how workers are dealing with this situation. Our recent research found that this failure to communicate clearly is hurting morale, culture and retention.

We first began investigating workers’ pandemic experiences in July 2020 as shelter-in-place orders shuttered offices and remote work was widespread. At the time, we wanted to know how workers were using their newfound freedom to potentially work virtually from anywhere.

We analyzed a dataset that a business and technology newsletter attained from surveying its 585,000 active readers. It asked them whether they planned to relocate during the next six months and to share their story about why and where from and to.

After a review, we had just under 3,000 responses, including 1,361 people who were planning to relocate or had recently done so. We systematically coded these responses to understand their motives and, based on distances moved, the degree of ongoing remote-work policy they would likely need.

We found that a segment of these employees would require a full remote-work arrangement based on the distance moved from their office, and another portion would face a longer commute. Woven throughout this was the explicit or implicit expectation of some degree of ongoing remote work among many of the workers who moved during the pandemic.

In other words, many of these workers were moving on the assumption – or promise – that they’d be able to keep working remotely at least some of the time after the pandemic ended. Or they seemed willing to quit if their employer didn’t oblige.

We wanted to see how these expectations were being met as the pandemic started to wind down in March 2021. So we searched online communities in Reddit to see what workers were saying. One forum proved particularly useful. A member asked, “Has your employer made remote work permanent yet or is it still in the air?” and went on to share his own experience. This post generated 101 responses with a good amount of detail on what their respective individual companies were doing.

While this qualitative data is only a small sample that is not necessarily representative of the U.S. population at large, these posts allowed us to delve into a richer understanding of how workers feel, which a simple stat can’t provide.

We found a disconnect between workers and management that starts with but goes beyond the issue of the remote-work policy itself. Broadly speaking, we found three recurring themes in these anonymous posts.

  1. Broken remote-work promises

Others have also found that people are taking advantage of pandemic-related remote work to relocate to a city at a distance large enough that it would require partial or full-time remote work after people return to the office.

A recent survey by consulting firm PwC found that almost a quarter of workers were considering or planning to move more than 50 miles from one of their employer’s main offices. The survey also found 12% have already made such a move during the pandemic without getting a new job.

Our early findings suggested some workers would quit their current job rather than give up their new location if required by their employer, and we saw this actually start to occur in March.

One worker planned a move from Phoenix to Tulsa with her fiancé to get a bigger place with cheaper rent after her company went remote. She later had to leave her job for the move, even though “they told me they would allow me to work from home, then said never mind about it.”

Another worker indicated the promise to work remotely was only implicit, but he still had his hopes up when leaders “gassed us up for months saying we’d likely be able to keep working from home and come in occasionally” and then changed their minds and demanded employees return to the office once vaccinated.

  1. Confused remote-work policies

Another constant refrain we read in the worker comments was disappointment in their company’s remote-work policy – or lack thereof.

Whether workers said they were staying remote for now, returning to the office or still unsure, we found that nearly a quarter of the people in our sample said their leaders were not giving them meaningful explanations of what was driving the policy. Even worse, the explanations sometimes felt confusing or insulting.

One worker complained that the manager “wanted butts in seats because we couldn’t be trusted to [work from home] even though we’d been doing it since last March,” adding: “I’m giving my notice on Monday.”

Another, whose company issued a two-week timeline for all to return to the office, griped: “Our leadership felt people weren’t as productive at home. While as a company we’ve hit most of our goals for the year. … Makes no sense.”

After a long period of office shutterings, it stands to reason workers would need time to readjust to office life, a point expressed in recent survey results. Employers that quickly flip the switch in calling workers back and do so with poor clarifying rationale risk appearing tone-deaf.

It suggests a lack of trust in productivity at a time when many workers report putting in more effort than ever and being strained by the increased digital intensity of their job – that is, the growing number of online meetings and chats.

And even when companies said they wouldn’t require a return to the office, workers still faulted them for their motives, which many employees described as financially motivated.

“We are going hybrid,” one worker wrote. “I personally don’t think the company is doing it for us. … I think they realized how efficient and how much money they are saving.”

Only a small minority of workers in our sample said their company asked for input on what employees actually want from a future remote work policy. Given that leaders are rightly concerned about company culture, we believe they are missing a key opportunity to engage with workers on the issue and show their policy rationales aren’t only about dollars and cents.

  1. Corporate culture ‘BS’

Management gurus such as Peter Drucker and other scholars have found that corporate culture is very important to binding together workers in an organization, especially in times of stress.

A company’s culture is essentially its values and beliefs shared among its members. That’s harder to foster when everyone is working remotely.

That’s likely why corporate human resource executives rank maintaining organizational culture as their top workforce priority for 2021.

But many of the forum posts we reviewed suggested that employer efforts to do that during the pandemic by orchestrating team outings and other get-togethers were actually pushing workers away, and that this type of “culture building” was not welcome.

[Like what you’ve read? Want more? Sign up for The Conversation’s daily newsletter.]

One worker’s company “had everyone come into the office for an outdoor luncheon a week ago,” according to a post, adding: “Id--ts.”

Surveys have found that what workers want most from management, on the issue of corporate culture, are more remote-work resources, updated policies on flexibility and more communication from leadership.

As another worker put it, “I can tell you, most people really don’t give 2 flips about ‘company culture’ and think it’s BS.”

https://news.yahoo.com/employees-feeling-burned-over-broken-122716638.html

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Post ID: @1ajh+1aVhXTFc

XOM pay is at the top of the industry, 20% higher than Chevron. Come on over.

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Post ID: @1giv+1aVhXTFc

XOM employee here. No raise. No bonus. No CEO.

I will trade places with you in a heartbeat.

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Post ID: @1zaf+1aVhXTFc

Be careful J B* or “old-man-yells-at-cloud” may end up on your doorstep looking for you...

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Post ID: @1bps+1aVhXTFc

Ive never seen the Chariman so flustered. I’m honestly a bit worried about him.

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Post ID: @1fqc+1aVhXTFc

Typhoid Marys should keep their cooties to their selves. And wash yer hands ya nassty!

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Post ID: @1gkq+1aVhXTFc

Do we have to explain this again? Because just like if you have a cold or the regular flu, you're not welcome around people. Most prefer that you stay home. Same thing with COVID, If you're vaccinated, you're more likely to not be carrying the virus and therefore won't likely spread it to others. It's also nunya bizness who is and who isn't vaccinated. So just do the right thing if you're not and stay away.

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Post ID: @1uwy+1aVhXTFc

@nxx If you are vaccinated and trust that the vaccine works, why should you care about others’ vaccination status? Others’ medical decisions are none of your business.

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Post ID: @duj+1aVhXTFc

We don't mind commuting as long as the antivaxx crowd stays at home. Stay away you walking typhoid Mary's.

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Post ID: @nxx+1aVhXTFc

@msj I am an employee AND a shareholder. So I get the dividend too. And an increasing dividend will translate to an increasing stock price. So its a win-win for employee shareholders. Maybe you haven’t figured out how to get the company match in the stock plan, but it’s the easiest money you can make.

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Post ID: @hau+1aVhXTFc

All you snowflakes can WFH forever. Just do it for another company. Otherwise, pull your pants up and get on with life in the real world. This whiny, pathetic “I don’t want to commute” garbage is soft and weak. If a commute is the worst thing you have to face in life, and you have a good job, you’ve been blessed. Get over it, and get on with it.

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Post ID: @atf+1aVhXTFc

Most of the leaders attribute low moral to WFH and expect it to improve a lot once we are back together at the ofice.

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Post ID: @zfn+1aVhXTFc

He's off base on WFH. Some might want to get back in the office but many do not. When teams are spread across locations and in many cases you might not ever meet your team face to face whats the point of dealing with commutes to sit in the office? The meeting once again was all about the dividend addiction and how its needed for the teachers and firefighters so sacrificing employees for the dividend is ok.

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Post ID: @msj+1aVhXTFc

Oil demand will rise for sure, no question. Prices may stay the same as output is now flexible. The stock will continue to struggle as investors pull out. Inflation is low so no issue there.

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Post ID: @yem+1aVhXTFc

there outright lying about the desire for WFH and the fake need to be in the office for collaboration is pathetic.

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Post ID: @zym+1aVhXTFc

Great point @xak, but the headwinds to our industry extend way, way beyond media bias. I expect more insight on these challenges than a hand wave and a dismissive comment.

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Post ID: @hwt+1aVhXTFc

RDS has made a cottage industry of building and talking about scenarios - for all kinds of things that never happen. If you look at their actual forecast of most likely future, they show oil demand growth into the 2030’s. As do most other energy companies, banks and third parties like McKinsey.

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Post ID: @xak+1aVhXTFc

Elections have consequences.

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