It's one thing to be a disgruntled employee who is rightfully complaining about neverending layoffs and another thing to be outright hateful and offensive when talking about anything Cisco related. It's the second group that I don't get. Nobody is forcing you to stay. Why be miserable instead of finding a new job? Why do that to yourself and your family?
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Whoever wrote this post is CISCO HR trolling us. Don’t feed the troll
For me, personally, I was quickly disillusioned at Cisco. Our startup company was acquired, and I got stock options that weren't vested, thus the stick-around. I was about to find a new opportunity this year then covid hit.
Chuck was more into hyping than anything else. I don't know if BU bosses are aware of what their engineers do, but my group, it was no engineering. Order from above to put it on the cloud? OK, throw it into a VM or container. Bloatware was everywhere. All they did is find freeware/open-source software out there, slap them together, stitch whatever we have onto it, then give it a name. The result is the bloatware that would require 36, 72 CPUs to run. Man, so pathetic.
It's not easy to leave, since Cisco has c-appy tech. Therefore, it becomes difficult to show your skills to other companies. It takes time to find a new job
Hate? No, disappointment and frustration. Cisco started out as a very promising company in a new, innovative industry. Had good leadership at the beginning which made Cisco a force. More recently, however, I hear and observe less and less about good business strategy and innovation and much, much more about "diversity is our strength", "community giveback", and other irrelevant nonsense. And a pathetic, crying CEO. Good Lord.
don’t worry @OP no one with a modicum of talent is going to be left. we all will find good jobs in the next couple of months leaving talentless losers like yourself to ride the titanic to the bottom. Enjoy!
I've been in Cisco for two years and I've been impacted. I'm happy for the heads up we are given which is different from the past LRs and having worked in other large companies, what they're offering seems to be fair. Could they have done more? Sure they should've reskilled at least a portion of the employees let go.
while I had an emotional reaction to being let go, as I was looking at the big picture I was happy for Cisco. This looks likes a purge of hardware (hence the impact on high quality TAC) and retention of only software products. Which could also mean that they're shopping for buyers. It makes sense for Cisco to sell its Data and Networking hardware to a partner and sign an MOU for exclusivity with that partner. But, Cisco has also LR'ed as many people in the past with no positive impact on the way it operates and that scares me. It would mean that the ELT has not learned anything from past LRs or has no strategy. And that's what gets employees angry. All this emotional turmoil and stress for nothing. It's like fighting a war and then going to war again at the end of it. It's unusual for a company to LR every month! I was told that Cisco LR'ed lowest performing employees every quarter. Which would mean that either the company s—s at choosing talent or does not invest time in its employees. And I completely agree with other people who've posted here the company needs to be led by an visionary engineer. Cisco has been so sales focused that it forgets that it needs products to sell.
To whoever put the remark about self serving entitlement. Are you saying you agree with the execs that lie, go against the code of business conduct, make false accusations, discriminate. Redundancy happens, what should not happen is that some self serving exec and individual does not abuse their position. The purpose of the posts here are to keep Cisco honest as per contract and law of the land. I feel for Cisco as they think oh the exec must be right and then there is the investigation that shows actually the exec lied but Cisco can’t go back so they go for the throat. Anyway I’m sure we will soon see the evidence and you can judge. It’s not self serving it’s called behaving legally.
For some it's a defense mechanism, to avoid getting hurt by what is essentially seen as a betrayal of trust. The trust was that if I work hard and do my job, you would have my back in tough times. Not focusing on shareholders, profits or hitting pointless targets. What is real right now are jobs and being being safe during Cov19.
On the other side there are people who sink stupid amounts of their personal time to keep a veneer of stable operation. This can be either personal standards or maybe imposed on them by their manager and job. After all that to be thrown to the side like trash in such a trying time would elicit such a negative reaction.
In any job you're normally putting up with a lot of sh–, once you're told to walk, all those things you have been dealing with boil over. The stupidity in saying "just leave if you done like it" is like saying divorce your partner after each fight. It doesn't scale.
The level of self serving entitlement and pity that people post on this site is disgusting. They’re outraged that Cisco hasn’t made them a billionaire yet! Or recognized their business GENIUS! It’s either all the brown people Cisco employs on H1s or the greedy ELT! These people need to grow up. Cisco or any employer for that matter, doesn’t owe you a GD thing. That’s the reality of all employment everywhere. Don’t like it? Tough sh*t, get a new job. Instead they whine and complain like children.
To answer your remark about people hating cisco. It is Cisco execs behaviour and the support HR provide the execs above the code of business conduct that every Cisco employee agrees to abide to in their employment contract. In fact that should be a question at the Group consultancy. Can Cisco guarantee they will abide by Cisco’s code of business contract. Any deviation during a redundancy means breach of contract and a compensation claim far higher than any package
Good point.
It is human nature to avoid pain.
The irony is often trying to avoid pain causes more anguish than actually going through the tough parts of life.