I have to say this. I don’t think there is a better company to work for when it comes to our calibre in retail. Just look at the posts from other companies such as Macy's and Neiman Marcus. I know JWN isn’t perfect, far from it - but it’s not worse than others I’ve read about. I may get downvoted, but I am glad to be here rather than working for other retail companies.
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Was that Kaas guy responsible for Kaizen? Not a bad concept but in trying to expound on that idea in creating greater efficiencies my 'leaders' were left agape.
I did the Kaas Waste Tour, came away with a decent impression of the man, and his real concern for the Nordstroms. Since coming in as an advisor, what policies and strategies has he championed? What impact have they had? With what parts of the organization does he interact? Is he a big idea guy or is he down in the weeds optimizing processes and business subsystems?
What are his accomplishments as biz consultant? Failures?
Any connection between Kaas and Mars Hill?????
Yep, many of the leaders of my group were members and they even passed out flyers at work. They were the power clique and set policy for years. One of the power couples even got married... if you weren't in, you were out.
I don't know how my reply went to that other thread...
Mars Hill Church, lol, what sleazy grifters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Hill_Church
You're saying this bled back into work politics and cliques at Nordstrom? the sort of thing that can affect your life, decide your fate, etc?
Dish, please, this sounds juicy.
Was the Mars Hill church a thing in anyone else's group? It was in mine and that influenced favoritism greatly...
From far away and somewhere safe and thriving, I and so many others who have escaped, feel great watching that godforsaken company steered into "Extinction Island" by JJB, Jeffrey Kaas, overpaid C-suite tools, racism-and-harassment-complicit HR, and their egotistical, talentless pets. chef's kiss
"Wasted years of my life there," pretty much sums it up.
I can't imagine they've turned the ship much in 9 months...
Earnings will be interesting.
I feel bad for the " NORDSTROM special events team"!!!!! Lots of them will or have lost their jobs. BAD days!
Right....the inverted pyramid. Subhuman pay in an insane environment. I wasted years of my life there. They always supported the worst management and punished those that worked hard and cared.
Oh Please - they couldn't give a sh– about anyone. All this 'humble' and 'familial' sh– is just that. What I find so offensive is that people like the the good Christian samaritan dunker Jeffrey Kaass is paid a fortune to talk b—s— to people who are too simple to separate BS from reality..... Scarves doing well Jeff??
It is a fact that Nordstrom continuously emphasizes the value they place on employees that are on-floor. Their entire business structure is based on an inverse pyramid. It places the importance of sales representatives at the top, with higher ranking positions at the bottom. That doesn’t mean people blindly believe what they say or “drank the kool-aid”. It is just highlighting the hypocrisy within Nordstrom’s business structure. I haven’t seen a post on this site that claims similar situations didn’t previously occur. They are just sharing situations they are currently experiencing which happen to be negative. I agree that most large corporations practice unethical behavior, which is why people should be able to express their experiences. I can’t understand why people feel the need to tell people to get “over it” lol. I’m sure they are capable of finding other employment. They are just sharing an experience.
Where is Jeffrey Kaas for the Kaizen win??? Jennifer Jackson was obsessed with this tool.....
I'm sorry if you drank the Kool-aid and it turned out to not taste so sweet. I myself was let go in the tsunami of layoffs caused by Covid 19 also however I worked in the company long enough to watch layoffs, firings, political paybacks, discriminations, HR nonsense, unethical behaviors by rank and file, management and the C suite over the years. The usual behaviours you see in any billion dollar company and quite frankly it was worse before Blake, Eric, Jamie and Pete were at the helm. I was lucky as in I was able to walk out the door and into another job quickly but it is for good reason most people are just passing through at Nordstrom. I don't condone any of the behaviors of Nordstrom or any other company but I also don't pretend it wasn't going on long before my number got pulled.
Sorry I don’t condone unethical behavior because it’s the “real world”. People should all be treated professionally and ethically. Individuals effected are entitled to express their negative experiences and if you agree with Nordstrom’s unethical business practices you shouldn’t be on a layoff site responding to people sharing experiences of job loss. Nordstrom continuously expresses how much “value” they place on employees. So why fire and rehire employees at for the same rate and claim the job loss was due to the pandemic? We all know these types of situations happen. That doesn’t make their treatment or feelings any less valid. They were all directly effected by Nordstrom’s lack of professionalism.
It's called the real world.
So firing and rehiring someone else for the same rate is a Covid “adaptation” strategy? No it’s not, it’s an excuse of using the pandemic to weed people out for no reason besides management playing favorites. If you are pro-Nordstrom regarding their id–tic business and staffing strategies ... why are you even on this site 🤣
Okay Anon Shannon! Sure they’ll get over it. But they won’t forget what Nordstrom did to them. You’re one of the lucky one that still have job or even paid salary. I am saying that the company is not perfect and yes it lies. Upper management can be toxic. Sure yes no matter where u work favoritism and nepotism always exist.
Should be laid off more of the id–ts at the top... or are they bottoms?
Nordstrom does not owe anyone who works or worked for the company a thing. To adapt meant laying off thousands, adjusting their business plan and closing some stores. Sure, the ground is shifting but it ain't over yet. Covid has been taking out the weak and strong. So far it hasn't taken out Nordstrom regardless of the
belly aching by current and former employees and acting like they were done wrong. If you work there and don't like it move on. If you were fired get over it. Life will go on.
Haters gonna hate
yeah you’re definitely one of those people who enables the managers. the upper management is racist and plays favorites and hr always sides with them. they literally lowered my ranking for reporting what was going on in my department to hr and said that themselves which is retaliation. hr said that was not retaliation.
the way they have handled this pandemic and lied in press releases about how they care about their employees proves how corrupt this company is.
You still work there ...that’s why you’re defending their ethical standards? You are not one of the THOUSANDS of people they laid off during the pandemic. They laid off people jus to permanently rehire more two months later. All because YOU still have job there and were not effected, doesn’t mean what they are doing is ethical. I have NEVER experienced such unprofessionalism and unethical behavior from any other employer I previously worked for. Nordstrom should be ashamed of the way they handled the layoffs. Furthermore promoting their toxic work environment with the implementation of unattainable line assigned goals.
And if Nordstrom HR is understaffed and harried, maybe I can sneak in a second or third job at the company without anyone getting wise.
Was the “art” sign with all the silly words on the 5th floor of 860 moved to 865, or is it sitting in someone’s garage? Or mercifully recycled, or pushed off a WA ferry, etc etc.
Stock crossing the $10 Rubicon after Black Friday or wait until the New Year? Stimulus off the table and a political Thunderdome dead ahead.
So is there any legal reason I can’t work two full-time tech jobs from my basement? There’s the matter of getting a reference from my current/primary employer, I guess.
But if I hunker down and continue to deliver for them, why would they mind if I drive Über, deliver pizzas, or sling code for Nordstrom as my side piece?
Actually, no. They are staring into the abyss atm, their credit on the brink of junk. Nordstrom may need these people to execute any successful tech-business strategy at this point.
You get a good sense of their needs from the projects listed in the job posts. Some of these problems, jeez, they should have solved well 5+ years ago.
Pretend everything is normal, push ahead like mad until you win or fail bigly. It’s like when the Blue C sushi chain failed here in Seattle a couple of years ago, or any other restaurant. It runs until it doesn’t, and the axe falls. No one received notice or severance at Blue C, it was just over.
The smart employees saw the signs ahead of time and adjusted course. Many such cases!
I guess their looming death has been greatly exaggerated...
How can you be negative in the short-term when Nordstrom has 86 job postings listed in Technology? They’re still hiring in Denver. Heck, Denver somehow still exists (why?).
A couple of these jobs look pretty tasty. What’s Nordstrom paying senior-plus devs these days? Working from home, is there any reason I could not hold down several jobs?
Whose pet are you and what is your actual non-Nordstrom professional experience?
Enough with negativity? How much do you get paid?
It's just kaizen.
Negativity?! I’m sorry if the prospect of you possibly losing your job, given the current business trends, makes you compelled to live in utter denial of this new reality. This is the current and foreseeable retail reality. We all knew this was coming, and for quite some time. Physical selling footprints aren’t paying their Bills, no pun intended with the mall lease situations. No worries, you’ll soon be in the company of 8,000+ former Nordstrom kool-aid consumers. inserts heart emoji
As a BAM retailer, Nordstrom was amazing. The sales/square ft numbers back in the day crushed all of their competitors. The reputation and autistic customer service anecdotes were pure gold. Nordstrom created and fine-tuned a very special shopping experience. It was a prestigious brand, I mentioned in another thread, far superior to Macy’s and the rest.
But we are in a secular decline now. E-commerce allows merchants a little more efficiency and breathing room, the same way malls did a couple of generations ago. If it survives, what will it look like 5 years out?
If all brands are online, what is the function of a Nordstrom? Just a collection of brands in one place? A store buyer selection function? If ecom forces a grand battle of supply chains and thin margins (and Prime members), it cannot win.
The trends were in place, C19 just accelerated the timeline.
Customer buying or not buying is what matters at the end of the day. Retail does not need caliber. Buying pattern & habits have shifted, adapt or die