Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

OFF SHORE favored over NEAR SHORE

They are hiring sooooooo many H1B Visas (off shore).

Why doesn't Cisco "Near Shore" instead of "Off Shore"?

South and Central American countries have talent too.

Google has a lot of classes that they offer to students.

If Cisco did more of this, then I'm sure they could hire people on American Shores too.

Why not tap into this? Do people just prefer to work for FANG over Cisco?

What if anything can/does Cisco do to attract Top Talent North, Central, and South American Shores?

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Post ID: @OP+17OegZaY

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Poorly researched article, sorry. H1B is an immigrant visa sponsored by US companies for work stay in US. Once we 'offshore', we don't need H1Bs. Also, 'off-shore', whether we like it or not, do have immense software networking/coding talent , and lower costs. Bitter pill, my friend.

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Post ID: @3ozq+17OegZaY

English is a issue in most of South America along with political instability . Moreover considering Cisco presence across the globe, timezone is a constraint .
There has to be a willingness , talent pool , language ,time and cost advantage. There is a reason why most of the American tech companies have captive centers in India.

PS - This post says offshoring and H1Bs in the same breath , no they arent the same.

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Post ID: @2jlg+17OegZaY

50% of Cisco's revenue comes from OUTSIDE of the US , on the same anti-globalization track, let all other countries stop using Cisco. Make in America- Also sell in America . Possible? No.

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Post ID: @2fyk+17OegZaY

Are any buildings in use at RTP?

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Post ID: @2cgf+17OegZaY

"Americans want health insurance and retirement benefits. It's fun as a manager to have deportation power over a human. You haven't lived until you worked an H1B visa person 80 hours/week with constant threats of taking their job and visa away."

Are you sure?

At Cisco, isn't this the same for all employees?

And if so, isn't this just a management problem?

When management so bad, then why not hire more H1B visas?

Equal opportunity management problems?

Those are just some questions that came to mind after reading the comments.

I am just asking if management (and to be fair many other companies too) has sunken so LOW that the upper management can stik it to anyone and everyone?

And if so, that's not discrimination, that is just a cesspool of bad managers?

So, ask yourself, if you are honest.

Where are the majority of the managers from?

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Post ID: @1nkz+17OegZaY

Good question. does political change worsen this? More offshore coming? More h1b?

Why not just train and hire more Americans?
Midwest and Deep South aren’t hicks and hillbillies like the MSM tries to portray them as there is talent in those areas
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Post ID: @1irm+17OegZaY

When you have guys like John Chambers https://www.jc2ventures.com/about as the "Chairman of the US-India Strategic Partnership Forum" where do you think companies are being steered to.

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Post ID: @1rsn+17OegZaY

Americans want health insurance and retirement benefits. It's fun as a manager to have deportation power over a human. You haven't lived until you worked an H1B visa person 80 hours/week with constant threats of taking their job and visa away.

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Post ID: @urg+17OegZaY

Executives at upper level are responsible for all the greed and mismanagement. Making millions and the system is rigged.

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Post ID: @ymm+17OegZaY

"They don't speak/write good english in south/central america."

With regard to some countries, there is a varying degree in the percent of population that speaks and writes good English. Don't paint with such a wide paintbrush.

First, go to YouTube.com and enter the following:
"nearshoring"

Try that, you will see that people in South and Central America are using their command of the English language to put together some impressive nearshoring marketing campaigns.

At least check it out first.

There are plenty of educated people there in several of the countries. Granted some of the countries are iffy and possibly evolving toward more potential (hopefully). But I think you will be surprised at how many counties want to learn to speak and write English.

And we already speak Spanglish. They probably watch the same movies as Americans (in Los Estados Unidos (USA))...

" Hasta la vista, baby! " ;)

And. I also agree with the person who said that there are plenty of people here in the USA. Cisco is shuttering places in Texas, North Carolina (Research Triangle Park). There are colleges in Utah where there are literally hordes of people graduating from collages with excellent skills ranging from artificial intelligence to java to oscilloscopes and more. Not just Utah and Idaho, but in fact a lot of call centers go to areas like Utah and Idaho. It shocks the $hit out of me why companies like Cisco and others shut down buildings in Texas, NC, Utah, Idaho, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.........

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Post ID: @nkr+17OegZaY

Why not just train and hire more Americans?

Midwest and Deep South aren’t hicks and hillbillies like the MSM tries to portray them as. there is talent in those areas

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Post ID: @bij+17OegZaY

They don't speak/write good english in south/central america.

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Post ID: @xvg+17OegZaY

“Central and South America are wrought with infrastructure and political instability/support“

North American government any more stable?

Cisco is planning to move to the much more 12 party Indian government?

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Post ID: @ojp+17OegZaY

Central and South America are wrought with infrastructure and political instability/support. Cisco made huge investments in the campus in Bangalore, the writing was on the wall a decade ago when they made all those deals with the Indian gov't, then began selling U.S. based sites. Herndon, Austin, shrinking BXB, stopping expansion of RTP at 12 buildings, etc.

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Post ID: @whh+17OegZaY

mid level management has to change. replace all those VPs of indian descent

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