Look at what’s left in that place , all the c-ap of the day ! Any decent operators have left . Corrupt again as supervisors going to be taking machinists jobs .
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Supervision need to be let go . They should not be allowed to go back to m/c's.
They are the problem.
Is it worth the aggravation
To find yourself a job when there's nothing worth working for?
It's a crazy situation
But all I need are c-gare–es and alcohol!
Can’t see many wanting to stay anyway. Permanent days 40 hour week working on old rusty jobs
I've already contacted my solicitor regarding this and he has told me that if this does happen then those made redundant whether it be voluntary or not are set to make alot of money
Thing is supervising a m/c shop is completely different from working a m/c and making/refurbishing parts. How can they fairly bump a supervisor who hasn't been on a machine in ages to take a current machinists place. They do not have any current time on a machine to be able to say "well supervisor "snake" can do a better job than machinist "shafted" because of "blah, blah, blah". It's like comparing apples and oranges. Anyone that gets bumped for them will have a very strong case for unfair dismisal.
Watch what happens with the charge hand , he stays then points fiddled, end of story . Totally incompetent.
Agreed, apparently it’s came from the horses mouth that he will get rid of everyone so he has his boys left. That’s tells me consultations are a waste of everyone’s time. This is the same over and over in machine shop. Scores fiddled to suit
This is bad news. If it is the case that the bumping has already been decided on and line managers are informing their employees that this is happening to them then the fair and objective criteria for selection has already failed. The reps need to bring this up and have it documented.
Best let the legal people make a call . Am I right in thinking something like this happened previously and done employees won a case. I can 100 % confirm foreman is letting people know this before consultations.
Bumping is legal to a certain degree. Bumping is only legal if the persons position they are filling is not at risk of redundancy. So in this case it would be illegal because the persons position they would be filling is already at risk.
From Dikipedia
Bumping is a legal process to ensure your top employee's are retained over the diddie's.
“If their current positions have been made redundant and they have now been given machinist tittles and a machinist role then anyone that gets paid off over them will have grounds for unfair dismissal as the supervisors of been put in to "new" positions that are already known to be at risk.”
I don’t personally agree with it, but do some homework- it is perfectly legal and is already happening.
If DQ are considering bumping, which they have to do by law, they need to ensure that they are squeaky clean and fair. If the persons involved in the bumping are also involved with the scoring then you immediately have grounds for unfair dismissal. If supervision are already telling those at risk that this is happening then full consultation has not taken place and again this may be grounds for unfair dismissal. This is really shaky ground DQ are on and tribunals could go either way.
Everyone should put in a claim against them
Do you mean two new machinist positions that were never advertised?
If their current positions have been made redundant and they have now been given machinist tittles and a machinist role then anyone that gets paid off over them will have grounds for unfair dismissal as the supervisors of been put in to "new" positions that are already known to be at risk.
Yes but they can't "bump" their current positions and put them in to positions that are currently at risk. That is completely illegal irrespective of which department people work in.
They will not be given similar titles -
They will be offered exactly the same titles as machinist if they so choose to be bumped. They will not be carrying out their old roles either- that roles are redundant.
It has already happened in other departments.
It is completely illegal what they are doing. They think they are being smart by giving them a similar tittle as machinists to get round it but this will not work. The fact that there regular day to day duties they carry out differ from that of a machinist displays that they are carrying out a different role. They can not then be included in the same category as a machinist irrespective of what tittle they give them. This then would make it illegal to allow them to go in to a machinists position that has been made redundant. If they do then people can claim for unfair dismissal.
“I’m getting a call back this week to discuss legal action, foreman been telling folk the supervisors are falling back into machinist jobs”
Let us know how you get on with that- bumping is completely legal and will
Be used across the board.
I might add most of us made the decision! Not that 3 , no one wants to work for scum like that
The drama queens all left in that place , we Cinderella and wicked stepmothers running it
Your cushy number is up, poor output and an unwillingness to change made the decision inevitably.
Just move on and be at peace with yourself, new employer’s do not want drama queen’s.
I’m getting a call back this week to discuss legal action, foreman been telling folk the supervisors are falling back into machinist jobs
Can see solicitors making a lot of money over the next few weeks in Aberdeen!
That’s no surprise they still need the dril quip blue blood henchman having a hold over the place making sure the moral is as low as humanly possible, feel sorry for the boys left half are lower paid guys Who haven’t been there long,not likely to stand upto the 4 guys with little man syndrome who love to feel power and treat people like sh–. The 4 of them will walk around like gods gift dictating to the rest.
Agreed I’m going to get advice over coming weeks time to hold that machine shop accountable
Strange how previously they were kept out of the machinists pot but now they are at risk they have been included so they can be saved. How the mighty have fallen. One will be walking about like he has sh– himself and can't do the job because he has a bad back and the other will have to deal with losing his status and not being able to order folk about anymore. I can sense a court claim coming out of this for corruption. Lets face it DQ have a habit of doing this and a habit of losing.