Thread regarding AIG (American Intl Group Inc.) layoffs

"When the robots take over" ... that's funny.

That's such a misguided and ignorant statement to those who actually know what robotics are...but keep working on your sensationalism. You may get a job a TMZ soon.

When the robots take over, maybe they’ll recognize your superiority and allow you to join their brotherhood. Until that time, I don’t think we can be of any further help to you.

(Below) Emotional intelligence should only go so far when the company continues to deprecate itself and people wonder why. Maybe management and senior slackers have something to do with it, but instead they, like you, rely on social capital and ego-stroking instead of hiring the right people for the jobs, reviewing employees based on what they bring (not how they make insecure people "feel"), and objective truths... but nice try at trying to dilute common sense with emotionally defensive tactics under the guise of emotional intelligence.

Original poster, sounds like you're as much as an egotist as our senior leadership. Try growing up a little and start learning about emotional intelligence.
Or just go start your own company. It can't be any worse run than this one.

Left two months ago for a smaller but growing insurance company. The difference is startling. People are a lot more productive when there’s not an expense problem. You should 100% interview with profitable companies.

Who ever said I wanted to become upper management?

Insurance in NYCis all about being “made” - the point when an exec decides you’re “future leadership material” and you can now rise with their tide up the ladder. Until then, bounce around companies and raise your experience and comp. sitting in the same role at any of the big companies for 5+ years is career s–c-de and almost ensuring you won’t reach upper Mgt.

you should absolutely interview at other companies, not all are this bad

No doubt there are some terrible mid-level managers at aig, but it all starts at the top of the organization and trickles down.

If you are bright, ambitious and young go find another company, period. You are most likely not going to move up at aig and you are not going to be compensated much beyond 1% or 2% a year if you are lucky. All high level promotions are filled by friends of upper management and most compensation is vacuumed up by the high paying exec jobs, many of which are newly created.

Most managers are scared to death because they all have targets on their back right now so all they want is for you to shut up so they can keep the eyes off of them. All upper management wants is to loot the company. Any position below a pay grade 25 is considered expendable. AIG does not care if you leave. Take control of your career and go as quickly as you can go. If you stay, don't expect anything more than what is outlined above.

Veterans stay at AIG to soak up what they can from the sc-aps that execs leave behind. Young people should gain knowledge and exit to a better career. That is what I would advise my son if he wanted to work at AIG. Its nothing more than a stepping stone and a big name for the resume.

Good luck

at this point, what difference does it make? All through these boards, people have the same complaints. Some people do the work, some people get promoted, and those aren’t necessarily the same people, right?

Your manager doesn’t seem to like you, and confronting them with “facts” is making no difference. It never will. A new manager or a new department, or most likely a new job will give you a fresh start. Even if it ultimately doesn’t work out, it’s better than going on in misery if you have another choice.

Also keep in mind the saying, “wherever you go, there you are.” Are you ok in other areas of your life and is it really just the job? Think about this, not for the sake of being a high performer for a corporation, but for yourself. Also consider the possibility that you may never achieve life satisfaction from working at an insurance company. You probably won’t. Most of us have to work, and it’s just a means to an end. I’m not saying you can’t be happy in your work, even this type of work. But what if you can’t and still need to work?

I’m in a similar position as you and should have left five l, even if it meant taking a lower salary. Specific circumstances outside of work have kept me here. I dread being laid off even though it’s more and more likely as time goes on and even though it may be “the best thing that ever happened” to me.

Best of luck to you in whatever you decide to do.