Nothing from Angela Brav.
Nothing from the Country Leaders.
I am lucky because I have a great manager who keeps me informed.
But I want to hear from our leaders, because I know that our financial position is fully broken, and I know then are going to fire us all but they are too ashamed to communicate.
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Based on the competency of Hertz HR? Probably have to send in a few reminders
Has anyone received a response to the SAR request yet? What information did you get?
We all know Brav is not the leader who will guide us out of these difficult times. With that said Pauls decision to keep her in place and allow her to reorg all her s— ups to new roles just tells you the direction they have chosen to go. They are padding their own pockets and ensuring a nice soft landing for themsleves and others will be left out. Yes many of those named have no prior experiene or qualifications to postively contrubte to those roles. But now its abiut Brav surrounding herself with people whi will not ask questions and simply agree with her till the ned comes.
“Those of us who have many years of service who deserve a proper redundancy payout!”
Hmmm... “deserve” is an interesting word to use. I think you are fundamentally misunderstanding the Hertz position.
You know the company is bankrupt, right? You know that they are reshuffling the leadership and repositioning Angela’s cronies into the top jobs?
Do you deserve that?
How much does Bryn Flower know about Fleet? How much does Rafial Gounder know about being a COO - you could say he’s been doing that job for a while - that’s gone well, hasn’t it? How much does M’Lady know about EV’s and mobility strategy? How much does Doug McDoug know about Rental Car Finance (ably assisted by Barfin).
These are your leaders. Do you deserve them?
Who cares? Those of us who have many years of service who deserve a proper redundancy payout!
Who cares how many days they require or take the end result is the same........ job losses and lots of them!
Check google. Over 100 redundancies requires a minimum of 45 days consultation. Are they hanging on for additional government support ?
If they are saying that you won’t receive the money for 90 days it is because of the number of people under consultation, the law states if it’s over 100 people then a 90 day
period of consultation is required if
it is less than 100 people it’s only 30 days consultation. In the meanwhile you will still receive the furlough until the final payment.
They won’t let you take the money and run. Everyone has to wait 90 days.
Run. Take redundancy, don't make a fuss, don't wait full three months consultation and get money in your bank account while you can.
Hanging by a thread. Bond money not coming until end of April at best. Plenty of lawyers and consultants, internal "experts" and "know it alls" now scratching their heads that maybe it wasn't that simple having creditor protection on one side of the pond and getting fresh money on the other. Pres's words "we have secured the long term funding of the company" not true at the moment. As usual, Brav nowhere to be seen when there is bad news, she is busy combing her hair.
Insolvency/receivership is very probable. If you don't want to fall to statutory, take the money now. If you think there is future for you with Hertz, ask a few colleagues working about the atmosphere and how happy they are.
What are the rumors?
Any news on how the reorganisation is going on? Rumors are everywhere but senior mgmt pretend nothing happens. Frustrating
Hertz U.K. is now the smallest of the ‘major’ U.K. rental fleets, and by some margin.
In fact there are now independent rental car co’s knocking in the door of overtaking Hertz by fleet size.
Let’s not mention profitability, because Hertz U.K. doesn’t make a profit, and hasn’t for years.
Then you see Hertz U.K. Car Sales hawking cars on LinkedIn (how undignified).
So I put two and two together and ask myself ‘why are so many layers of U.K. senior and middle management needed?’
Probably because these managers know that they are unemployable and would rather throw their colleagues under a bus than behave in an ethical way.
Well done Angela Brav and team - great oversight and strategy.
You are all being conned, the process was not fair send in the SAR requests, the reason they get away with this is your allowing it with your silence?
12m bonus to the exec’s for causing this mess while people without a voice get robbed, the works council and employee representatives are not fighting for you they are checking and accepting, and as long as they are not on the list agreement is swift.
The negative reactions you see on SAR posts and Justin spreading misinformation is HR. Bridget field brook, Shazza funnel and the rest c-apping their pants and praying hard no requests come in.
Pay attention to Timb and Robin posts. It is true information about the consultation process having a predetermined, precalculated outcome and it is all over the e-mail servers.
Sending SAR is your right and you cannot be penalized in any way for asking. The company knows this and is desperately trying to discredit it. For extra motivation, read how 50 top executives are seeking to pay themselves 12M$ in bonus. The Pigs in Orwell’s Animal Farm are looking at us going “man, these guys are greedy.”
You have the upper hand. You have nothing to lose and a bigger payout to gain.
Nice of Justin HR to help out.
HR haven’t got a clue. Send in your SARS. If they have nothing to hide, they wouldn’t have sent Justin to give her 2 cents worth.
They can’t withhold - it’s the law. I wouldn’t want to be caught in breach of GDPR requests in this day and age. I know Hertz HR/IT/Compliance is totally incompetent, and couldn’t hit the side of a barn door with a bouncy ball, but that doesn’t excuse illegal behaviour.
The new structure? It’s the same as the old structure, but with 50% less workers and the same shower of stuff leading from the back with blindfolds on and earplugs in place. Even useless Tim still has a job.
Send your SARs in - give HR something to do.
Hertz - I am ashamed of you.
I don’t think you will ever know the true criteria for selecting redundancies if indeed there is one other than your senior manager selection of individuals as they will be told how many people they will need to cut from their team or department.
Not sure if SAR will help either as anything adversely negative to the company will be withheld from being released and to be honest how will you know otherwise?
Expect the hierarchy to close ranks and protect themselves as that’s what usually happens in any organisation and if you are selected for redundancy then prepare some reasons to negotiate your terms other than the statutory legal requirements.
Has the new structure been communicated to anyone yet?
you got a bum deal. covid is so so tough on everyone, but not the UK management team. VP Operations as a country manager, operations director, sales director, fleet director, HR BP and finance BP all keep their high paid jobs for network, revenue, activity and fleet that is a fraction of what it used to be. you can't beat the corrupt system, but you can make sure you get payback!
follow what helping individuals are telling you on this forum. get your SAR request in and don't sign anything. mention specifically any correspondance with "FTI Consulting." not only does the list exist, but FTI did individial, financial calculations for the cashflow impact of redundencies. i repeat INDIVIDUAL. constitutes prejudice, it is illegal and your chance for kaching. ask during consultation to speak with top HR gal in UK, minute it and ask her to go on record that there was never any prejudice in the employee selection. watch her be silent or run faster than speedy gonzales. get a good lawyer to stir more.
branch staff: chip&pin compliance, or in this case lack of. you can easily threaten to tell authorities what a bad job we are doing. discoverable information and on record internally. hertz will want to avoid the large penalty and reputation damage.
good luck
At my husbands work they is now finding that SAR’s are coming in all of the time - it’s a big issue for HR.
One of his mates did one and found all sorts of nasty stuff written in emails. He was able to negotiate a much better deal. They was terrified he says.
In a lot of cases they pay more just to avoid sending youre SAR when they find anything bad in them!
Im doing it - I hope nobody has been saying things about me!
- K./HEL EMPLOYEES - SEND IN YOUR SAR!!!
HR and your line manager may pretend that you are now in a process to identify whether or not you are going to be made redundant, but I can assure you that in most cases the decision has already been made - this was planned months ago.
This is illegal.
Send in your SAR and they will be forced to disclose the documents that show this. Colour-coded lists of names that clearly show you were marked for termination a long time ago.
Then go and get legal advice (check the cover on your home insurance policy, Citizens Advice etc) to understand what you can do with this information.
HR must be monitoring this channel. Lots of “-ve” when anyone mentions SARs. If they get rid of half of HEL, they must surely get rid of all the HEL HR support (what do/did they actually do???)
Unfortunately, if your British with a U.K. contract it’s pretty easy to let you go and pay the minimal amount, our colleagues in Europe are much more challenging and expensive, so the cuts start here.
Until I see AB cutting her ridiculous sized team of executives frankly this is all BS, one of them is equivalent to 10 of us. Come on Angela please share the criteria you have used to select people for redundancy, because if it was fair as in the US it would surely also include fat cats, I agree with the below I think the US have abandoned ship it’s weeks not months of cash? And let’s look at our leader what has she given up? Mews House at the palace, business class flights home for the holidays, Hertz House, her team, her bonus, her US healthcare for her family, her US tax status, NOPE none of the above, and given the value she brings we could save 10 mid level people..would be good to see the SMT make just one sacrifice?
Time to get your SAR’s in - it’s now or never!
You have nothing to lose!
Does anyone know what type of redundancy package we will be given? Will it be statutory?
Wow, such a surprise to be told today that only the senior members of our team still have a role in the new structure. Didn’t see that coming at all 😀
Anonymous, d’you think we’re not trying to find a new job? Don’t know where you’re from but where I live jobs are not growing on trees. And then personally I still hope on a good severance.
Btw how they are planning to pay the restructuring? More like a Europe chapter 11 is coming...
The profits from Europe were taken to the US through HESC for so many years.
Now the US will probably leave Europe manage it's own collapse (after paying them fat bonuses... remember the $16+ millions?!).
The US are financially stable for the moment.
Now is time to shrink Europe, starting with the countries with lower government support.
The rest will follow.
Employees are losing money with the furloughs while the management keeps its fat salaries.
At the end 50/60% might stay but in a miserable company with rotten management (coward greedy incapables).
Aside from the remaining cash (from 2 to 4 months I heard), you should all look elsewhere.
Remember when the management was bad mouthing about the competition...looks like they are not as rotten as Hertz.
Sadly I have seen this company go from top to bottom...and they'll guilt trip the employees that have been fantastic (and that had to cope with the daily lies and b—s— from management).
Time to let the SMT from Europe and the countries go down.
Folks, find a job elsewhere and never look back.
It seems financing is not happening as expected. Anyone has news on it? How many months Hertz Europe can survive without it? I fear US doesn’t give a sh** about Europe
Here we go it’s time for the big chop tomorrow maybe 20% of uk or Ireland staff or more?
Can they get even worse?
A full team of useless managers and directors and VP.
Always first to tell how great they are and how weak is the competition...
But who is on chapter 11 and unable to proceed to the financing of Europe?
One day we're great, the next day is a. Risks meeting for cash. Can't be more unstable and toxic.
Hertz has no juice left...going down the drain.
Hello.....AB.....where is this email that TW is supposed to be sending that basically gives an update on this people plan and high level restructure?! Or is this one of those, let's keep them on the edge of their seats and make them sweat! Typical Hertz Europe with their poor communication to their "wonderful employees"
Breath new life into our culture wow, AB who is still using a picture from 1990, we need honesty, transparency and a leader who’s management style is not stuck in the same era as her picture.
And someone who’s restructuring an organisation after 14 months has no idea how it operates, look up the 8K filing Hertz Global had to file because AB told the bond holders so much BS in Dec?
2021 won’t get better while our leadership is stuck in the dark ages?
Exhausted reading this nonsense written by a pointless communication’s executive, save costs start with your team?
Is it true RG is retiring this year? Part of the ‘go into Administration, then re-emerge under Apollo ownership’ plan?
Who is this ‘Alan’ person - the saviour of Hertz? Surely not the “strategic handbrake”?
Hertz ability to hire strategists who can’t strategise is incredible - the recent track record is particularly bad. Then you have all of the money wasted on consultants and contractors who frankly don’t have a clue either.
What has really changed? I’ve been at Hertz for 15 years now and I genuinely can’t think of anything genuinely innovative.
When will be have a mobility play that isn’t just daily rental in disguise?
When are we getting EV’s?
Why do we think you can’t buy an EV without having a comprehensive energy supply infrastructure in place?
Are we going to start doing deals with fuel companies for our petrol/diesel/hybrid proposition (no, because that would be stupid).
When are we going to make a decision that doesn’t need 12 months gestation and end up being so diluted by the so-called experts that it ends up being daily rental in disguise?
It’s too late now, of course, but it would have been nice to have something good to look back on.
Nope 2015 was actually the only year they hit anywhere close to that level.
But we should be optimistic that in 2021 under the immense leadership of AB during a global pandemic, with 30 days cash left they will hit the highest number in history.
Do they really believe anyone is reading this PR nonsense and feeling optimistic.
I seriously can’t wait to hear the Brav Vision for 2021 that’s apparently coming this week, this place feels like a sad joke..
Whoever was supposed to proof read that latest waffle from RG should be ashamed. 2015? Really?
Furlough is the only option, we have about 30 days of cash left BT said not looking good, yes we have a potential funding option but to buy cars and now rental numbers are almost wiped out again, perhaps AB will just use the funding to pay for the large executive team she has never reduced, her personal bonus and a few more business class flights home.
Jan will be another 15m loss at best, fleet orders are all on hold...AB has had a year to reorganise the business and to me it looks as though she’s effectively done nothing except believe she’s important, 30 days guys be afraid, and no consultants but Alan’s back in the game, and Rafael is behaving like a tyrant welcome to Hertz 2021.
More furloughs today In HESC Dublin
Angela Brav, is back FFS we won’t survive another 6 months under her leadership, well actually debacle. What is actually wrong with this company that they can’t see that this leadership is doomed?
Dementia Barbie, with a nasty twist and now no consultants we will implode. Tick Tick..