Word is Kansas city shop folks be bumping into nlr any truth to this.
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Having gone through this at Hinkle. They will keep a few on (Hinkle was 1 Foreman, 5 Machinists, 9 ,maybe 7 can't recall exactly, Electricians, 12 MSO, 3 of whom were retiring this year and those positions won't be filled) so it is not a full shop closure. Which negates the ability to bump into another location with the exception of Foreman. Foreman have district seniority (not region) and can place themselves according to their seniority in their district.
I had been told Foreman of system shops had system seniority but had to exercise seniority in the order of location, district, region, then system. That appears to have been one of those common misconceptions and Foreman have district seniority only, according to word from ARASA Union when Hinkle closed.
The argument about work moving to different location is nullified by storing locomotives. They can claim the work was not moved because the locomotives that represent that shop's work load were stored.
Please show me a printable copy in writing that states running repair can not and will not be allowed to transfer any where.
I've always heard that if the carrier moves or transfers your work to a new or different location that you have the right to follow your work with seniority(as agreements state in writing). When they claim your work has went away, you are just furloughed. This is the reason that they are re-naming trains, calling them extra trains,etc. Manipulating data, statistics,numbers,wording,charts, federal rules,regulations,and etc. ,to fit their immediate needs . Nothing has changed except that they have "kicked it up another notch".
The foreman are coming to nlr
I'm sure it's wrong but I was always told you can only dovetail if up calls it a work transfer. If everyone is allowed to dovetail to me that seems more like system wide seniority
Why is it that shops all over the country can close no matter what type of repair/ or classification that their facility is defined as, are allowed to dovetail their seniority to North Little Rock,AR, while others employed at nearby facilities are being furloughed and denied to dovetail seniority? Where is my "UNION"?
Everyone keeps saying seniority doesn't transfer if you are running repair and it does if you are back shop, and I can't find any written proof of this, anywhere. Will someone please send a link to support this in print? Also, please provide link to New York Dock I personally can not find anything in washington job protection agreement that has anything to do with what type of facility we are classified as. Thanks in advance for your info/response!
The copy of the washington job protection agreement that I read states for shop crafts.
Denver service unit fell under the 1964 Washington agreement! COMPLETE closure of the diesel shop which put everyone’s seniority at a worse state! People with enough seniority to hold a job at north yard could bump ! North yard is a running repair yard also.
Foreman yes, the rest of the crafts no.
What about the 1964 washington agreement?
They will probably follow Pine Bluff and Dolton. Keep a skeleton crew of electricians and machinists, no foreman or laborers. To handle switch engines and dailies for any through trains.
There is a huge misconception of what the new your dock agreement is for. It has nothing to do with a company closing facilities. It is only for jobs lost during mergers approved by the STB.
Depends on whether or not they call it a shop closure due to lack of work or a work transfer I would think
Regarding shop folks, it's unlikely UP is willing to close the facility completely and initiate NYD compensations. It would cost too much money to the greedy-a– b–tards on the top floor in Omaha and negatively affect the company's almighty operating ratio. There is no repair facility in KC Kansas, Just a pit. If they follow suite with what they've done at other closed locations, they will leave a skeleton crew for switch engines and emergency repairs and kick everyone else to the curb.
Yes that is because forman have regional seniority. So, that all depends on their seniority dates. What's their date's and do they wanna finish their career's out here?
One was already spoken to and he can't even come close to bumping here.
gaurenteed 100%, 5 or 6 service track foremans are headed you’re way in the next 5 days
Are you all that stupid?
KS is a running repair facility. Running repair facility work does not transfer, ever. So therefore, they are not and cannot transfer ANYWHERE.
That seems unlikely. Equipment is being stored/sold. Work isn't moving, it is going away.
If UP shut down the shop they have a right to follow the work. They can dovetail in with their seniority.
Could you post that article
Yes, theres actually a legit article on the real news about that subject.