Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

UAW pay

The following is from

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/columnists/nolan-finley/2019/09/24/finley-union-not-gm-exploiting-uaw-strikers/2418655001/

The article is obvious an opinion piece, but it was eye opening for me to see some UAW pay numbers. I've stripped off the opinionated parts to show just the numbers here.


UAW autoworkers are the elite of America's blue collar workforce. Going into the strike, the GM workers enjoyed a base pay of about $1,200 a week, or roughly $60,000 a year. With overtime and shift differentials, the average union worker at GM earns about $90,000 annually. That's a third more than the average Michigan school teacher.

For each of the past four years, GM has issued profit sharing checks of more than $10,000 to its union employees. That's a dandy annual windfall for someone saving for retirement or college. In comparison, for the one-third of American workers who share in profits, the average check is $2,000.

  • GM's profit distribution is more collectivist than capitalist. Owners of the company reap just $1.67 a year in dividends per share. A GM stockholder would have to hold more than 6,000 shares, or roughly a quarter million investment, to get as large a piece of the profit pie as an union employee.

Veteran UAW autoworkers are among the rare group of employees in this country who still get pensions, which they can collect after 30 years on the job. (Newer hires have been moved to 401(K) plans.) They also have near fully paid health insurance (they cover 3% of their health care costs, compared to the national average of 30%). And the coverage carries into retirement.

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Post ID: @OP+11jyM00T

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Right on!!! Lay off all the salaried so GM can continue to pay the lazy a– UAW workers!! Please 90% of these fools dont work more than 3 to 4 hours a day. Yet they want more!!! Fire them all!!! There are several autos who have none UAW plants and the vehicles are actually built with quality. Union had it's time. That time is gone.

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Post ID: @5qpn+11jyM00T

In response to @11jyM00T-1izp: Comparing teachers to UAW workers is also an apples-to-oranges analogy. Teachers have at least a college degree, and most have both a bachelor's and master's.

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Post ID: @2jdw+11jyM00T

Hey union workers! While collecting your $50/day pay this week....guess who continues to enjoy their full pay? Your UAW boss!!! There's the greed. They make you stand in the picket lines to ensure you can protect the $800 million union fund and keep their bellies fat.

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Post ID: @2sro+11jyM00T

workers have to fight, always. Most bosses/ companies will try to minimize labor costs AND maximize profits. the UAW should invite CAD, CAE, Release engineers, test engineers, test technicians. And bring future product to a stop.

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Post ID: @2uaq+11jyM00T

just to push back a bit,

Even if you believe the article's figures...

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School teachers work 10 months out the year; not 12.
So, adjusting that $60k base salary (down to 10 months)... yields $50,000 annually (for and honest comparison).

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trying to factor in 'Overtime' pay.... is APPLES to ORANGES.
Theoretically, i could make 90k this year IF i worked enough hours in a day.
But my JOB doesnt offer that.
Neither do most schools.
To 'blame' a factory-worker for taking advantage(?) of that kind of an opportunity... feels kinda lame.
It's the PLANT that's offering the O.T. in the first place. IF they REALLy had a problem with it... then they'd go HIRE more workers.

But apparently they dont...... i ASSUME healthcare costs play a FACTOR in that decision.

I wont argue the rest of the points mentioned; but just wanted to be a bit more fair here...

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Post ID: @1izp+11jyM00T

Lots of trolls on here with inaccurate information, support the UAW always.
GM corporate is the greedy one, not the union.

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Post ID: @1fli+11jyM00T

10% are temps making less than $16/he. Maybe half make the top pay. The rest make between $17 and $28/hr. All of you math wizzes try to get an AVERAGE of $90,000/year from that. 6% raise in 12 years with no COLA and we're supposed to keep making less AND pay more for insurance? When the company makes record profits?

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Post ID: @1nbk+11jyM00T

The Detroit News numbers for profit sharing were inaccurate! Remember, the DN is biased in favor of the automakers and dealers with their high ad budgets. When was the last time you saw a negative review of a GM vehicle?

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Post ID: @1iri+11jyM00T

The profit sharing of $10'000.00 gets a 42% tax, also, yes they have these good benefits and they work for them, it's not like they do nothing. As far as healthcare, look that's on all of us, same on all of us for being a freaking sheep and standing by while they continue to raise costs. This also goes for profit sharing and your work environment. Companies don't share profits or benefits like they once did it goes to shareholders. If you want this you need to fight for it, you can stand around and point the finger at others tho, right? Look what they have, that's not fare. Come on guy!?!

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Post ID: @eoo+11jyM00T

GM should just lay them all off. UAW making the case for automation really easy here.

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Post ID: @kpf+11jyM00T

It’s very real news. These are a group of people who enjoy a pretty darn good overall benefits vs the average worker across this country. And yet, they want more. Glad to see all the cash saved with the salaried jobs that were sacrificed will be put to good use recovering from this nonsense.

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Post ID: @xnt+11jyM00T

fake news

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