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Xerox Considers taking over HP

NORWALK, Conn. (WHEC) — A new multibillion-dollar deal could be in the works for Xerox.

According to a report by The Wall Street Journal, the company is considering a takeover of HP Inc. The computer and printing giant is valued at $27 billion.

Xerox is looking to make a cash-and-stock offer. The board discussed the possibility Tuesday, and the company has an informal funding commitment from a major bank, the Journal reports.

Sources told the Journal that the deal could save more than $2 billion in expenses. Both companies have been fighting to come up with solutions to a decline of demand for printed documents.

Report: Xerox considering HP takeover
Xerox has about 3,000 employees in the Rochester area.

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Baron's quoted the following:

"Bernstein analyst Toni Sacconaghi asserted in a research note yesterday that Xerox might not actually want to buy HP—but instead might want to nudge HP to buy Xerox. That idea, he says, “feels like a crafty Icahn-esque maneuver,” a reference to investor Carl Icahn, who owns 11% of Xerox and sits on the company’s board."

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Post ID: @1fjg+11TBtu7Z

This @ 1lna again.
Do I wonder if this is a way to bring HP into the game as an activist investor; sure I do. But, hey.. that was a possibility when Carl brought JV on as CEO. Not new news.

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Post ID: @1nfk+11TBtu7Z

Really? Really? You think this is a play to prop stock up to $40 for a sell? If you are thinking that; don’t you think the people with the $$$ to buy are thinking that?
Get real people.. you are not wall st. Capital investors. It takes more than a temporary news story to convince an investor to buy and C Icnh knows that!
I suggest you think of another reason.

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Post ID: @1lna+11TBtu7Z

Stock manipulation 101. 300 level course in forcing competitors to think about options and go deeper on analysis. Middle school math shows how this is ridiculous. 2019 ego and media ownership allows this to go as far as it has. Blame to go around. Stupidity rests with Steve B and less to John V, who is really no more than a brainless bully. Shame on Wall Street.

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Post ID: @1wqa+11TBtu7Z

One of Icahn’s past tricks is to load up the company with debt, much of it owed to Icahn himself. Once he can get the stock price up & cash out, he calls the loans & pushes the company into bankruptcy.

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Post ID: @dlj+11TBtu7Z

Why the would you want to buy HP? The debt load is stupid. Somebody please wake up and review the math.

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Post ID: @faj+11TBtu7Z

Well, KMart bought Sears...

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Post ID: @ofr+11TBtu7Z

This makes no sense. It has to be a play to try and prop-up Xerox’s stock above $40 a share (Icahn’s & Deason’s stated goal) to try and sell the company.

Xerox’s share price is $36.37 as of today with a market cap of $8.15 Billion and revenues of $9.23 Million (a number many of us doubt). HP has a share price of $20.67 as of today a market cap of $29.53 Million, which is 3.6 times the size of Xerox, and revenues of $58.72 Million, which is 6.4 times Xerox’s revenue. In addition, Xerox has $922 M in cash and $5.15 B in Debt ($101.1 Debt to Cash ratio) and a rating of Baa3 (Moody’s December 2018) while HP has $4.92 B in cash (5x Xerox) and $5.06 B in debt (less than Xerox) for a ratio of $1.03 and a slightly better debt ratio of Baa2 (Moody’s September 2018).

Simply stated, even with $2.3 B from Fuji Film for Xerox’s share of FujiXerox, companies of Xerox’s size do not buy companies of HP’s size unless the bigger company is literally is on the verge of or already in bankruptcy (US Air buying American for example). In addition, while Xerox would buy HP, the employees of HP, even after their proposed job cuts of 7K to 9K (of 55,000) would have to run the new organization as Xerox has no one left to run a company of Xerox’s size, never mind the size of the combined firms. Maybe the former HP executives within Xerox today know something that we don’t? The one part I do agree is that this would have to be a cash and stock deal as neither company has the ability to raise enough viable debt to make this work. Overall, if this story is true and move forward, to make the numbers work, it’s going to take a deal that is so complex that it will make the proposed FujiXerox acquisition of Xerox look as easy as baking brownies from a pre-made mix.

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Post ID: @ixx+11TBtu7Z

You have to consider what Deason and Icahn are worth and how much financial pull they command since they already were in talks with Citigroup to secure financing to buy HP.

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Post ID: @xck+11TBtu7Z

My question is, how does Xerox have the money to buy HP and not the other way around? Xerox is worth $8 billion vs HP being worth $27 billion.

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