I can't understand why some folks are still not looking for a new job and choose to remain in their miserable situations unless they're petrified of what's on the other side of the fence. It's just mind-boggling how some can tolerate such a bleak existence, day in and day out, without any ambition to make a change. Maybe they're just too damn lazy to put in the effort required to escape their current predicament. It's annoying seeing these individuals squander their potential and settle for this disaster when they could be living their best lives.
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Agree with last poster. Those complaining are either doing nothing, laid off, or spammers. We are the better once the current lay-offs complete. Will there be more, sure… welcome to capitalism. We can’t get rid of incompetent leaders and misogynists till the Board acts and they don’t care. So that’s the part we have to wait out.
My current position is BY FAR the best job I have ever had. My Manager is an inspiration, and my work makes a difference and is exactly what I want to be doing day-in-day-out. Excellent pay (for an employee with an AAS) and an essentially empty, recently updated and beautiful campus. I don't know what people are so worked up about. This company is too diverse to ever truly go bankrupt. Coming from a rural part of the country, my job is still considered to be the apex of American possibilities. Much to the chagrin of all these Debbie-downers on this forum. This company has changed my life for the better and anytime I spend here I am better for.
I'm salaried with no pension and no retiree medical.
Group 3A - Already mentally checked out, hoping for the severance, will certainly discourage future applicants.
Clarification:
3M stopped offering retirement medical coverage about 8-10 years ago. Current retirement benefit is a medical savings account available to salaried employees (not sure about non-salaried) as a bridge to Medicare. For most, this covers a good chunk of the annual premium the health care insurance companies charge.
Group 2B: employees only waiting around for a decision about the pension. My fear is the decision already exists but hasn't been announced yet as a ploy to stave off a mass exodus for as long as possible. Certainly hope we're not being manipulated in this way but nothing surprises me anymore!
For those of us working in tech, it's not a great time to be job hopping. A number of us are waiting out the market before leaving.
Worked at 3 places before 3M so I guess I would be Group 2. Pay and benefits are the best I have had. I could easily work somewhere else if I wanted to give up my remote position or move to some other area but I like the job that I have right now and I don't see any harm in riding it out for a while.
I should also say that my manager is the best one I have had too, and most people leave a job because of their manager. I hope he gets to stick around.
To the person who posted the first response…
I am in group 1. Where I work (in production, in a manufacturing plant), there is no applause during meetings. Retiree medical? What is that? Are you talking about 3M Retiree Medical Savings? Because there is no retiree medical coverage offered for production employees. I guess 3M considers salaried workers more deserving of retiree medical, than production workers? Production workers are exposed to a lot of hazards, if anyone deserves retiree medical, it’s them. And before anyone starts about it being a benefit of a college education, there are plenty of college educated employees, working in production.
I hired in during the 90s and I definitely do not clap after the town halls😂
Count me as previously group 3, now group 5. There is a significant amount of corporate brainwashing at 3M, more than other places I've been. For whatever reason a lot of people think 3M is the only place they can work, every other company is worse than 3M, that they are lucky to work there. I think part of this comes from the pension class who have been at 3M since the 80s and 90s, when from what I have been told 3M was a great place to work.
At the end of the day, you either learn to think for yourself and take control of your life or you don't. If some people are too brainwashed to know that the Titanic has already hit the iceberg and there's no saving it, then that's their own problem.
May we suggest group 6? Overly promoted leadership JG 15+ that think so highly of themselves, but really know they will not be able to maintain the same job grade and salary outside of 3M.
Any real company would eat them for lunch.
There are 4 groups of people left today in 3M.
- Group 1. 1980s and 90s hires who just hope to get to the finish line with pensions and retiree medical. No need to rock the boat but please stop clapping at townhalls after this abysmal performance from leadership.
- Group 2. Experienced hires. Probably happy with the pay and benefits but wonder what they got into here. Previous employers had pock marks too but not the "glowing" reputation that 3M no longer deserves.
- Group 3. Newer hires who will leave in droves and warn potential experienced hire about the plague happening in Maplewood.
- Group 4. Sheep. Will clap at townhalls. Will work longer hours to backfill for lost workers. Have no life out of work. Bought into the myth of 3M.
Oh yes, Group 5. The people who have escaped and enjoying life sans 3M. That includes me!