Chevron shouldn’t allow anyone back in the office or work around other employees unless they’re vaccinated...And they get vaccinated every six months or as recommended by CDC or other Health Org of whatever country the employee is from.
Change my mind.
@hwwb - You still don't get it and your explanation of how the vaccines work is incorrect. It does not modify our genes at all. It never makes it near the nucleus. They don't trick the virus into not attaching to our “natural generic receptors”. Apparently even the watered down explanation he gave for dummies is to advanced for you. But if mRNA vaccines worries you too much than just take the J&J. However, if you’d rather commit a federal crime with your fake card than so be it. Just don’t complain about other criminals and how they’re ruining the country or whatever when you've become a criminal yourself.
Get the vaccine or don't. I don't think most people really care. Funny things is the liars will stand out because they will be the ones trying to pass off a vax card that is clearly not legit due to one telltale sign, and they will also be the one's suddenly social distancing and wearing masks because of being more paranoid about getting COVID and their lie being found out. Such is life when you're living a lie.
Guess what though? I don’t think anyone really gives a cr@p who gets the vax or doesnt. Extreme opinions are entertaining to me. I live and allow others to live as they choose. So go get vaxxed or nah it don’t matter to me!
They're already arresting people for fake vax cards. Aw snap!
Those who have been snookered into believing the government has a centralized database somewhere of all the people who have been vaccinated, better realize that’s not the case.
@gipd - In fact, if an employee tries to pass off a fake vaccine card as the real deal they have potentially committed a federal crime. https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2021/PSA210330
Goverment has all vaccinated people whether full or half vaxxed for covid in a database provided by hospitals and various sites coordinating it. Chevron will know who is and who isn't. For those who are not, you will be randomly dr-g tested alot more frequently and forced to attend D&I training until you quit. Classic Chevron re----k remediation tactic.
Ok so if corporations are not requiring employees to produce a vax passport or vax card...will they require employees to sign something that says they have been vaccinated. The result ends up being the same condition of employment. The liars will sign and say they got the vaccine? Then what happens if the liars get Covid? The company finds out the employee lied and gets terminated for signing that they got the vaccine.
If a company requires the vaccine as a condition for employment and the employee presents a fake vaccine record or signs something that says he /she has been vaccinated and then the employee gets Covid after “proving” with the fake record or signing then what....the employee gets fired for lying?
Well, I checked today and we are NOT required to have the vaccine or any alleged "passport". So there's that. I am happy that Chevron has not succumbed to the lunacy of the left and will continue business as before. Get your PPE, etc. girls. Time to get back to work. Quit trying to come up with pathetic excuses, snowflakes. lol.
@gcnn - Please show me the article or amendment of the Constitution or clause in current US labor law that prevents Chevron from requiring a COVID vaccine for continued employment. Of course, you can't because there aren't any. However, there are laws that make it illegal to use a fake vaccination card (Title 18 United States Code, Section 1017 for example). But if you don't mind being a criminal you can get away with a lot, I suppose. Maybe you'll want to take up embezzling from Chevron next.
Not entirely correct @gwew. Employer work policies and conditions DO NOT override the constitutional rights of free citizens. There are limits to what a company can demand of its employees. We still live in the USA where Labor Law, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights are safeguarded (at least as of today when I last checked). In any case, I do have my fake Covid Vax card for the ready in case Chevron decides to go co------t on me.
Companies neither provide nor revoke freedom. They pay you in exchange for work under conditions they specify. Your options are to form a Union or walk.
You have to carry a driver's license if you want to drive somewhere. Why shouldn't people be required to show they are vaccinated if they want to engage in certain activities where COVID is easily spread. In both cases, you're just showing that you aren't a hazard to others.
@ecju - It isn't illegal just because you say so. If you think it is, please provide the law and section that it violates. Saying “I heard somewhere that it is” or “it feels like it should be illegal” aren't going to fly in an actual courtroom.
No, we shouldn't all be required. I am vaccinated, that's good enough for me. Carrying a vaccinated card is not any kind of normal and will never be. Is it required for Ebola, SARS, how about a card indicating that one has AIDS would be helpful, wouldn't it? Not gonna happen. Get over yourselves and get back to work. Your vacation is over.
Carrying a vaccine card is not normal, but it is the new normal. Why do people not get that? It may be the new normal because COVID-19 is an unprecedented situation.
Why don’t people get it that we’re in a new normal? Carrying a vax card could very well be the new normal. History has nothing to do with it.
It's amusing that you feel one must carry their Covid vaccination card with them at all times in case they are asked to prove their status. Have you spent one day in a History class? Do you honestly think that having to carry your papers on you is normal?
Don't post anything of Workplace. Just ask the individual who debated the previous diversity officer on privilege. He mysteriously did not get picked in the transformation. Workplace is an echo chamber mined by Facebook and probably one of the best tools the CCP has to infiltrate our company.
@blht is correct. It is illegal to require the vaccine for employment.
@blht - What legal ramifications? Don't say HIPAA, cause it doesn't apply. Neither does ACA (unless you have a bona fide medical condition that prevents you from taking the vaccine, then maybe). Many organizations require vaccination records and other medical information (e.g. TB test, dr-g test) as a condition of employment. Nothing new or legally dubious about it.
@bmhn, Workplace is a “One-Way Street”. Best not go contrary to the company propaganda if you care for keeping your job. It’s no different than television ads; I may sit thru 3 minutes of commercials, but that doesn’t mean I support the product or will run out and buy it. Chevron knows the old saying— you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
Chevron is running Workplace ads that say Care a lot get a shot, #Onefortheteam, and posting heartwarming pictures of vaccinated people with their grammas. If you don’t like Chevron pushing that ideal on you then tell Chevron. Post it on workplace that you don’t like it.
No, I got my vaccine but that doesn't mean I should impose my views on others and I doubt they would make it a requirement, with all of the legal ramifications. If you are for vaccination, just get it, it's free and you're protected. What's the deal about trying to force your ideas on others?
@adld - Everything in that article is either false or presented in a misleading way. Please don't most disinformation.
No jab for me. Read these true facts and keep the link to forward to your family and friends.
https://www.educationviews.org/no-jab-for-me-did-you-know/
Did you sign up for dr-g and alcohol testing when you signed on? You are getting it now and if you don’t like it you can sue or quit. Your body and brain belong to Chevron!
Was there a pandemic when you hired on? Was a public health crisis considered and was the world over populated with billions of people when the Constitution was written? Come on people stop hiding behind an outdated document that suited the time in which it was written. Progress!
I took the vaccine and I am very confident in the process and optimistic about the outcome. However, I don't feel that it should be mandatory for anyone and think that may have some serious legal and moral repercussions. Just because some of us are willing to take the risk doesn't mean everyone should be required to. Did we sign up for that when we hired on? I certainly don't remember it.
Well, "mandatory" is not a legal option, there's that pesky thing called the Constitution that gets in your way. I choose Freedom and is why I immigrated to the US. What say you?
If we don’t acheive herd immunity and the virus lingers the vaccine will become mandatory. The alternative will be an internment camp. Take your choice.
Yes, that's an interesting read though behind a paywall. It's nice that Chevron isn't engaging in anything illegal and immoral like that and subjecting themselves to lawsuits, though. Thank goodness!
"Want That Job Offer? A Covid-19 Vaccine Is Now Required.
Employers are starting to mandate shots before candidates are hired. It’s a new rule some managers are rolling out for existing employees, too."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/want-that-job-offer-a-covid-19-vaccine-is-now-required-11619438580
@7ujp: Have you done any research on how the polio vaccine was developed? In a year it was rolled out as safe for the population. For you to say COVID is not a death sentence based on your own experience with it is really very short sighted. Regulations require pharma companies to list any possible side effects no matter how minuscule the possibilities because of the risks associated with liability (thank you insurance companies). The western works are experts at vaccine development which is why diseases such as polio, tetanus, influenza,hepatitis, rubella, measles. Guess why these diseases have all been eradicated in the western countries: vaccines!
The experimental preparation that many are having injected into their bodies is not without risk. Do a little research and see what the pharmaceutical companies list as potential side effects of their "product". There are NO long term human studies available. You can't sue the manufacturers. Whatever happens in the future as a result of taking the vaccine is your burden to bare.
I had Covid and was hospitalized for several days. I survived with little lasting health issues (as far as I know at this time). Several others in my extended family had Covid as well. They had much less severe reactions than I. Taking the vaccine is a personal decision.
Covid is not a death sentence. The vaccine is neither a cure nor a universally effective preventative medical treatment. Sorry but there are risks with either choice. Seek to understand the broad spectrum of medical viewpoints from credible sources. If you think all licensed, experienced and highly credentialed medical experts support the vaccine, you are greatly misinformed. There is much more to this pandemic than health considerations alone.
“Care a lot, get a shot.” #ForTheTeam.
All 3 are brine water fake vaccines. If we cant cure the common cold in 125 years, do you really the we can develop 3 different vaccines in 9 months for a supposed flu virus?
Nope @6dhu, you’re very wrong. When a corporation starts taking my freedoms away, I will vigorously sue them and turn it into a class-action lawsuit. I think they know this all too well, so they won’t go there. Now when the government thinks they can take away my freedoms, it’s inevitable that the backlash will be swift and strong. The proponents of laws that take away our freedoms will be voted out of office forever. That’s a politician’s worst nightmare, so there too I think it’s not likely to happen. The measures being taken now are only temporary, but time and patience is running very thin. I predict the US economy will be fully reopened in 99% of the nation by the end of August 2021. Masks on planes for everyone, vaccinated or not, will probably be the norm for a few years. But everywhere else where social distancing can be maintained most of the time, masks will be optional or gone all together.
dont complain if they take your freedom for not taking a corporations medical advice!
I will complain, and will continue to be a thorn in their side like they are in mine.