Are they worth it?????
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A friend who spent many years as a consultant with large companies (on scale with 3M) said, "Mostly what they pay me for is confidence. Many already know instinctively what should be done, but don't have the guts to do it unless an outside party validates it." We have bred a culture of overly conservative thinking that reflects a mentality of scarcity.
Where is the bold vision to inspire and give direction?
Consultants are expensive and only tell you what the majority of companies are doing. 3M needs to understand and acknowledge its faults and take corrective action. They do not need another reorganization promoted people with new titles and no outcome!
They need consultants because all the actual talent has moved on to other opportunities. What’s left are a bunch of hangers-on hoping to make the next pension milestone.
Only source of ideas. Mike and Monish dont have any good ones.
This management hires consultants so they can blame others when things go wrong. It is the GE way and what bad or insecure leadership does to make sure they survive. I love 3M but hate how this company treats its employees. What I hate most of all is how the leadership promotes leaders who are so horrible and abusive to team members.
Many of the consultants add high value. Let’s not get negative on the whole group - albeit maybe too many are being used
I personally feel it a management that can't manage what's going on. Their heads are down looking at the numbers making decisions to get the numbers to look good all the while things are going down around them. So what happens oh the numbers look good and then raise their heads and sadly the walls have come down. Decisions being made are not making sense 😕
I agree with these comments. How do the people that rolled Advanced 3M out know that it was a success or a failure if they never did a true PDCA around the results? They never asked the people it directly affected how they were doing. Areas that large product lines lost Senior Supervisors who supported engineering and hourly and had a Product Manager were never checked in with. Supervisors of Hourly Reports had to fill roles that they weren't qualified for and Value Stream Managers had to give Supervisors a small % of time. Business structure died since March of 2021 and the people who made the request for change left 3M before the end of 2021. Advanced 3M was the worst structure plan that I've seen in all my years with 3M. The inmates are now running the prison because Supervision is now in meetings they were never in before, pulling them from the floor and the problems. It's a bigger train wreck than the SAP Go Live Roll Out...that also had no long term support for plants.
The problem is romi thinks A3m is a huge success! So the question never arose. All the problems we have…. Its the external environment. I cant get over the cringy comments by moni on results call… we are waiting for supply chain issues to “heal”
Who did they blame when the Advanced 3M organization failed miserably?
By using a consultant you can shift blame to the consultant if things go wrong. Passing the buck basically.
Hiring consultants because they have no idea what to do. To balance hiring costs they fire employees. When production drops due to layoffs they jump to next company. This has been patern for last few years.
it is incredible, it is comparable to trying to buy your way out of debt and the interest is more every month than the previous,month form your neighbourhood loan shark. PG is in way over his head as are a lot of senior management, at least Captain Smith abandoned the Titanic with women and children first, here it will be MR,MP AND PG first
Senior management incompetence?
The kickback comment is immature. But i get the frustration.
Tireman is likely getting kickbacks from Kearny for doing podcasts for them.