Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

All Workers Must RTO (Return to Office) By End of 2022.

Apparently, this was a company-wide directive sent out late today.
days per week in the office. 3 days per week in the office

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Come to Stellantis, full time remote because of the global nature of company. No plans to RTW from top leaders mouths because they made 15billon last year and 6 billion in first half of this year working from the couch.

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Post ID: @5utv+1iRKhPb9

Zero, Zero, Zero: Crashes, emissions, congestion. All GM WFH employees could achieve this. Not now. Employees can now see how much meat these Marxist slogans have. "Work appropriately","Be Inclusive","Think Customer","Innovate Now","One Team","It's On Me"...ah ha. Sure.
How do we "Win with Integrity" when GM is supposed to lead by example?

What difference does it make for GM if we are attending virtual meetings and designing from our laptops at home or in the office? There's only one thing that makes sense: They WANT PEOPLE TO QUIT because they need to do a round of layoffs. No severances or buyouts for people that leave voluntarily.
GM is seen as: Cynical, greedy and cowardly.
Remember "quiet quitting"? We are entering that phase now. This move was short-sighted.

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Post ID: @4las+1iRKhPb9

My EGM just said "stay tuned". Meaning, he has no idea or has been told not to say anything.

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Post ID: @4wta+1iRKhPb9

Is there even a 5 day work week in November?

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Post ID: @3wku+1iRKhPb9

return to work will begin in november

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Post ID: @3vkl+1iRKhPb9

I've talked to many egms today. They have the same amount of answers as we do.

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Post ID: @3eox+1iRKhPb9

Has anyone else met with their local leaders today? It seems they have exactly zero answers as to what this will look like including a date. Completely unprepared. Ridiculous.

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Post ID: @3quf+1iRKhPb9

GM’s negative comments towards Teslas layoffs and Return to Work Policy are backfiring majorly. There’s a reason why they shot the return to work email out at the end of the day on Friday, then proceeded to solidify it in the newspaper without any conversation. The auto industry is doomed because of inflation and dealer price gouging… this is the first step in the process. I wish GM were up front about the layoffs and told their employees how many people they need to cut. It’s bad business, and they’re trying to avoid the costs they’ll incur along with the negative media attention.

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Post ID: @3zan+1iRKhPb9
IT has people working on projects at various locations throughout the country

Country? World!

Lots of people in India and China.

Will they have to stop working remotely and move to Michigan because remote doesn't work?

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Post ID: @3qkg+1iRKhPb9

@3zqp Ford has not returned to the office.

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Post ID: @3vmm+1iRKhPb9

IT has people working on projects at various locations throughout the country. We didn’t collaborate face to face before we started working from home and we won’t once we go back.

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Post ID: @3lbz+1iRKhPb9

DP hated WFH from the start. That was obvious. He was probably in Mary’s ear about it and had an excuse to pull the trigger when Ford called everyone back. It’s not much more complicated than that. You would be amazed at how many company decisions are based on an executive shooting from the hip.

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Post ID: @3zqp+1iRKhPb9

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Post ID: @2yoc+1iRKhPb9

It probably isn't a good business decision.

It just shows power and control and makes the managers feel better about themselves.

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Post ID: @2ejl+1iRKhPb9

Of course they can change their mind on WFH or WA.

Is it smart? They would not have done this if it didn't make business sense. My guess is that they think layoffs are coming. They already don't like WFH.

Let's be honest, it takes a lot of effort for managers to know if their employees are working. Rather than have definable metrics that they can use, the use a-s in chair. It's d-mb.

But they can do what they want. I am sure people will leave. I am sure they know this. if they cared, this would have been a process with input rather than a Friday night no detail email.

One thing you can do is give 0s for the entire WoC survey. Make it meaningless or make them add the managers to the chopping block too.

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Post ID: @2bfy+1iRKhPb9

A job posting isn't a contract. Just because they told you WFH doesn't mean they can't change their mind for business reasons.

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Post ID: @2wxy+1iRKhPb9

They want to encourage as many people to quit as they can, so the follow on layoffs can be a little smaller and they won't look as bad.

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Post ID: @2lxp+1iRKhPb9

What about those who were recently hired? Many of the postings clearly laid out the expectations for WFH vs. WFO for each role. For example, some DRE positions noted 1x per month. Some were fully remote. You could live much farther away from the office, if you were only expected to come in 1x per month.

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Post ID: @2kha+1iRKhPb9

Ford said they're having big supply chain problems. Parts are hard to get and more expensive. They had 40,000 cars they couldn't complete or sell. They parked a bunch at a closed race track. So why keep factories making cars they can't sell?

I expect cut backs industry wide soon.

To management, all workers are interchangeable. They don't know what we do, who has the best skills, or who does the most work. So they can't worry about losing the best workers since they don't know who they are.

They know how old you are and how much you make, both of which put you higher on the layoff list.

If they like you, that puts you lower on the list than people they don't like.

That's the whole system.

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Post ID: @2vln+1iRKhPb9

Sounds very close to what tesla did...

Asked to return or quit now.

Later did 10% layoff...

I mean I can't think a single rational reason why GM wants return to work for everyone.

Is it not working? If so then did GM gave sometime to improve for remote work to be sustainable? Any evidence shared with employees on what was working and where to improve?

None of these happened in my 5 yrs of GM time. I mean I don't really care much since I'm local and max 20min drive anyway.

But we hired many folks from out of state for definitely permanent remote.

Why are pushing this sudden move without any warning signs or communication with employees?

What were those pulse surveys done for then?...

Only reason I can think is that GM going for passive layoff on remote employees.

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Post ID: @2rfj+1iRKhPb9

Problem with that is that they can't control who is going to leave. People with huge in demand skills are going to leave quickly.

Usually gm follows Ford in policies and something had to make them make this move. They haven't even given any details on when this supposedly starts.

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Post ID: @1adl+1iRKhPb9

Likely a passive way off getting folks to leave willingly and cut costs rather than do layoffs and have to pay severance. Sadly you may lose some very good folks taking this approach. Our hr, in their infinite wisdom, thinks we’re all the same and just a number.

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Post ID: @1dul+1iRKhPb9

If wfh didn't work, then explain the 200% bonus this year and the 100% bonus last year?

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Post ID: @1yub+1iRKhPb9

Engineering staff moving more to all-virtual tools, sitting in their offices at their computers getting distracted by their coworkers, remotely called into meetings anyway, three days a week. Sounds like an absolute dream…

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Post ID: @1xmj+1iRKhPb9

Very good. Terminate any employees who don’t follow this rule immediately, most of them are lazy and should be pushed out of GM.

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Post ID: @1zkk+1iRKhPb9

Maybe everyone should report the email as phishing.

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Post ID: @1onp+1iRKhPb9

Hey Queen Mary. All the extra work you got out of me while I worked from home is over. You want to treat us like children? 40 hours is all you’re getting. I’m going to watch that clock like a hawk.

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Post ID: @omq+1iRKhPb9

A push to get people to willingly quit before there’s a need to do a round of layoffs?

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Post ID: @toi+1iRKhPb9

Roger! Roger!

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